This Young Generation Not Knowing Classics!

Decorating By ccr03 Updated 12 Sep 2008 , 1:54am by Deb_

ccr03 Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 7:14pm
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So yesterday was my nephew's birthday and I did a Taz cake for him. OMG - the kids (my other nephews and my sister's nephew) didn't know who he was!

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mommicakes Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 7:17pm
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Maybe we should open up the boxes that also include Ziggy!!!! icon_lol.gif

bethola Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 7:49pm
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Reminds me of a conversation I had with my friend about how I LOVED Pooh Bear and thought every child should have the "Pooh Bear Experience". She told me that her DIL never read Winnie The Pooh to her children and they "really don't know who Pooh is!". I almost DIED! I mean....WINNIE THE POOH! What did she read to them? I was devastated! LOL

Wonder what this generation will think about what THEIR children don't remember? LOL

Beth

indydebi Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 10:01pm
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when i worked in corporate america, I would frequently be seen walking down the aisles with my head thrown back in dispair, crying out, "I am surrounded by CHILDREN!!!" These college grads had no idea who Vincent Price was, and the ONE person who had heard of him, said, "Oh you know who he is! He's the voice on the Michael Jackson Thriller video!" aaaauuugggghhhhh!!!! They've no idea the term "Big Brother" came from the book "1984" because they've no idea what the book is about!!

My 16 year old was shocked, just last night, to find out the current song of "Eli's Coming", that is being played for Eli Manning (football - his brother is Indpls Colt's Peyton Manning) is taken from Three Dog Night's song "Eli's COming" from her mama's day in the 70's!!

A few years ago, some country singer did a remake of the song "These Boots Are Made for Walkin' " .... my warehouse clerk thought it was a cool song and I said, "Oh, you listen to oldies?" She said, No, it was a new song. So I had to explain it was a song from the 60's by Nancy Sinatra ("Who's Nancy SInatra?") and the boots in the song were Go-Go boots ("What are go-go boots?")

aaaaauuuugggghhhhh!!!! I am SURROUNDED by CHILDREN!!!!!!! icon_eek.gif

mbelgard Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 11:05pm
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when i worked in corporate america, I would frequently be seen walking down the aisles with my head thrown back in dispair, crying out, "I am surrounded by CHILDREN!!!" These college grads had no idea who Vincent Price was, and the ONE person who had heard of him, said, "Oh you know who he is! He's the voice on the Michael Jackson Thriller video!" aaaauuugggghhhhh!!!! They've no idea the term "Big Brother" came from the book "1984" because they've no idea what the book is about!!

My 16 year old was shocked, just last night, to find out the current song of "Eli's Coming", that is being played for Eli Manning (football - his brother is Indpls Colt's Peyton Manning) is taken from Three Dog Night's song "Eli's COming" from her mama's day in the 70's!!

A few years ago, some country singer did a remake of the song "These Boots Are Made for Walkin' " .... my warehouse clerk thought it was a cool song and I said, "Oh, you listen to oldies?" She said, No, it was a new song. So I had to explain it was a song from the 60's by Nancy Sinatra ("Who's Nancy SInatra?") and the boots in the song were Go-Go boots ("What are go-go boots?")

aaaaauuuugggghhhhh!!!! I am SURROUNDED by CHILDREN!!!!!!! icon_eek.gif




I'm guessing that Nancy Sinatra was related to Frank Sinatra in some way. And are teh go-go boots the platform boots that they wore with mini skirts? icon_lol.gif I have heard of that book but have no idea what it's about and didn't know that's where the term "big brother" comes from.

Everything else you mentioned I haven't a clue. icon_redface.gif

indydebi Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 11:40pm
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I'm guessing that Nancy Sinatra was related to Frank Sinatra in some way. And are teh go-go boots the platform boots that they wore with mini skirts? icon_lol.gif I have heard of that book but have no idea what it's about and didn't know that's where the term "big brother" comes from.

Everything else you mentioned I haven't a clue. icon_redface.gif




aaauuugggghhhhh! I *AM* the Old Lady on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

Nancy Sinatra was Frank's daughter....she appeared in a movie with Elvis. She tried to make a go of it in Hollywood based on Daddy's name, but she just never quite got there.

The go-go boots were the white boots worn with mini-skirts in the 60's .... I wouldn't call them platforms but they did tend to have a 2" heel or more. http:[email protected]/2104437118/ (I owned a pair with kinda flat heels when I was in 2nd grade!!! Man, I thought I was the big IT!!!)

"Big Brother is Watching" comes from 1984, written by George Orwell, in 1949 about futuristic world where the gov't controls everything. The word "Thought Police" was also coined in this book, along with describing a loss of privacy to govt's attempt to control everything as "Orwellian". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
Orwell was ahead of his time ... it's actually scary to realize that so much of what he wrote is here and we're dealing with it now. I consider this book top of the list on the "must read" list if you want to be a well rounded, informed person. (The wanna-be-English-teacher in me!)

I should have my own forum on here of "History Lessons You Need to Know"! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

SharonZ Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 11:57pm
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aaauuugggghhhhh! I *AM* the Old Lady on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

No you aren't! I know everything you're talking about. No doubt, I'm older than you!

Sharon

krystyne_wilson Posted 1 Sep 2008 , 11:58pm
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I'm young (23) and I'm proud to say that I knew all of what you're talking about excluding the "Eli's Coming" (I do know who Three Dog Knight are though) and I didn't know about Nancy Sinatra but I was familiar with the song before Jessica Simpson re-made it for "Dukes of Hazzard-The Movie".

I agree that many young people are not well versed in the classics...how can they be when they barely keep up with the present?!??! I fear that when I have children that I will have to be much more of a supplementary education source than I had thought I would be.

I was talking with someone the other day about that and she mentioned a program called "Brighter Vision" which made me think of my younger years in elementary school. I remember "The Letter People", and Seasame Street (I still watch Seasame Street sometimes). My Parents read The Brothers Grimm to me and my siblings, and not the "revised" edition either. I was glad to find that copies of the original stories are still available online. BUT I still know who Winnie The Pooh is!!!

PS IndyDebi~ I'm from Kokomo and was just in town for R&R late July-early August. I'll be back again in November. Maybe I could swing by your shop...

sweettoothmom Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:07am
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Oh I have got to agree. The kids no days are lucky to know anything let alone the history. I watched a film called National Treasure with my children who are too young to know the history in the movie as yet but my nieces who are schooled by a premiere school out of state knew NOTHING of the history in the film. NOTHING. I was putting things together as much as I could as quickly as I could as the story line fills in the blanks quickly.
So when I realized that they ha no idea what was going On I challenged them to read history and find out if the facts are acurate or not. This is a neat show to prove to kids that one day you just might use what they teach you in history class. My kids are 7 and under so they were caught up in the magic of the treasure and mystery of the hidden places and the clues involved. They are so ready for history lessons which we try and give them in small chunks.
I have to say there are too many teachers etc involved in our childresn lives for one reason the paycheck and summers off. Teach your children you are truely thier only hope to know our history. My children are lucky to have great teachers who strive to make each child involved and interested. And it is a public school on the wrong side of the tracks so to speak......

Granpam Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:08am
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I think I am older than you also Debi. I remember all those things. 1984 was required reading in mi English class. I am proud to say my soon to be 25 year old baby daughter would know all those things too. She even sings along to the oldies all the time.

BCJean Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:14am
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aaauuugggghhhhh! I *AM* the Old Lady on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laughing Laughing

NO Indydebi, that spot is reserved for me. When malts were served in glass malt glasses, sodas were "pop" and came in glass bottles. You went to the drive-in theater on Tuesday night and filled your car to the max and got in for $1. Automobiles were made in the USA. People knew how to spell and use punctuation. ...and yes, cartoons were funny. Movies left much to your imagination. There is no end to the list.
Who can recite...Four score and seven years ago.....
or Listen my children and you shall hear.....

gotta go now, my tenderloin sandwich is done and my stack of 45's just finished.

Jenn2179 Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:15am
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I am 29 and I knew most of those things too. I have to read 1984 in high school. Great book.

Sugar_Plum_Fairy Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:16am
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[quote="krystyne_wilson"].....I knew all of what you're talking about excluding the "Eli's Coming" (I do know who Three Dog Knight are though) and I didn't know about Nancy Sinatra but I was familiar with the song before Jessica Simpson re-made it for "Dukes of Hazzard-The Movie"..........quote]

Ditto here. Well except for the fact that Jessica Simpson re-made the song and I have Nancy Sinatra's version on my i-Pod. icon_smile.gif

I'm 39, so I guess I'm not one of the young 'uns who doesn't have a clue, but technically Nancy Sinatra is a bit before my time along with the go-go boots. lol Who knows, maybe I actually am familiar with the song "Eli's Coming" but just don't know the name. (I do that every so often - my DH will mention a song and I stare at him drawing a blank until he sings a few lines and then I'm like, "Oh, THAT song!"). lol

indydebi Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:16am
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....knew NOTHING of the history in the film. NOTHING.




That is so sad!! But I love how you countered it with them! How awesome! Reminds me of that Andy Griffith episode where he talked the kids into forming a history club so they'd do their homework ... and enjoy it!!

My son-in-law, who is a VERY smart young man and well educated in many things, told his wife (my daughter) that he's learned more about WWII (you know ... The Big One? It was in all the papers.....) from us than he ever did in school. And I've gone head to head with more than one history teacher who tried (repeat .... TRIED icon_twisted.gif ) to deduct points on my kids projects because the teacher was not as informed on WW2 as hubby and I are (we are big history buffs ... especially WW2 in the European theater).

Krstyne, I will be absolutely honored and proud for you to spend a few minutes of your valuable leave time home in my shop! The door is always open!

Marina Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:26am
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"These boots are made for walking..." This song brings back a lot of memories for my hubby. When he was little (couldn't read yet) his father marked the 45 single with shoe polish so that my hubby could play that song over and over without trying to figure out which side it was on. This was before his father left the family for another woman. He still thinks of good times when he hears it.

bethola Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:26am
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Oh Indy-D! What ARE we going to do? I STILL sing the "Buckle Up for Safety" Song to little kids when they get in my car! They usually laugh and say "Auntie B! That's a funny song!" LOL

I also sing "C is for COOKIE 'that's good enough for me'" by The Cookie Monster on Sesame Street. Can you tell me how to get, How to get to Sesame Streeeeet! LOL

Oldies... the REAL Oldies (sorry youngsters...NOT the remakes) are the BEST!!

Beth in KY

indydebi Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:32am
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I'm young (23) and I'm proud to say that I knew all of what you're talking about excluding the "Eli's Coming" (I do know who Three Dog Knight are though)




My daughter helped me find a video of the Eli's Coming Football Version ....


So tell your kids, when they're all be-boppin' to this song, that's it's from the 70's ... ANCIENT history to them!!! icon_lol.gif

abra526 Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:33am
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I am a phlebotomist at the hospital. (I draw blood from people). When we have children, I prefer to give them a cute bandaid, but the when I ask them if they want Taz or Bugs Bunny, they look at me like I was just speaking French! Thank goodness we have Hannah Montana and Batman stickers, or they'd never forgive me for poking them!

mbelgard Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:36am
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I agree that many young people are not well versed in the classics...how can they be when they barely keep up with the present?!??! I fear that when I have children that I will have to be much more of a supplementary education source than I had thought I would be.




I'm having trouble with my 4th grader not knowing some references that I take for granted. It's not the basic kid's stories, we've read most of those, but biblical references, the kid read all of Narnia without knowing what "son of Adam" meant. icon_lol.gif

indydebi Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:41am
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Oldies... the REAL Oldies (sorry youngsters...NOT the remakes) are the BEST!!

Beth in KY




I was having lunch with a young whippersnapper co-worker about 10 years ago, and mentioned that I listened to the oldies radio station. He said, "oh you like the 80's?" I said, "Oh, Wayne! I consider 80's music "that new-fangled stuff!"" The guy in line in front of us burst out laughing and said, "you are so right!"

I then had to explain to another co-worker that just because a song is 'old', doens't make it an "oldie". An "oldie" is a very specific time in music. Opera is old music .... but it's not "an oldie"! icon_lol.gif

It seems I am always explaining history to someone. Another kid co-worker commented on how he never understood why people put down wall to wall carpet in a house. "It must have been cheap to do." So I had to explain, even tho' wall-to-wall came "in" during the late 60's, give or take, (especially as ranch houses became all the rage) it was the energy crisis of the 70's that really propelled it. It was an insulator for the floor and helped keep the house warm ... a direct defense against home heating oil shortages. He thought it was cheap. I told him, "oh no ... when I was a kid, if you had wall-to-wall, you were considered RICH!" He was absolutely shocked. He had no idea the energy crisis (that he'd heard about but wasn't even alive then!) had any impact on house design. icon_confused.gif So I said, "Ever notice how a 70's house had small windows? Another design to help keep the home tight ... to keep the heat in." The whole conversation amazed him.

krystyne_wilson Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 12:53am
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Ok so I TOTALLY had this huge thing written out and it went bye bye...ggggggrrrrrrrr

Anyhow I was trying to say that the National Treasure films are fantastic! My gradnparents took me to see Yellowstone, Mount Rushmore, Indian Reservations and anything else entertaining and educational on our road trips from IN to CA in the summers. We also went to my uncle's Civil War re-enactments and to Hershey, PA. I learned so much and had such a good time!!!

I also wanted to mention the American Girl series as an option to those of you who have young girls in your life between the elementary and middle school ages. They are a FABULOUS series about different girls who grow up during important historical times in America. They are historical fiction and when I was younger I read them all. Now they have new girls and I actually want to read their books too! PLUS, there are dolls that go along with the books...check it out

http://www.americangirl.com

sweettoothmom Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:07am
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American girl has movie out too. This is a really good idea.
Go history, go!
If you dont know where you have been how do you know where you are going?!

7yyrt Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:24am
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My daughter still speaks with amazement in her voice, that she was the only one in her middle school class who knew that the answer to '_ _ _ King Cole' meant Nat, not old!

bethola Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:27am
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Originally Posted by bethola

Oldies... the REAL Oldies (sorry youngsters...NOT the remakes) are the BEST!!

Beth in KY



I was having lunch with a young whippersnapper co-worker about 10 years ago, and mentioned that I listened to the oldies radio station. He said, "oh you like the 80's?" I said, "Oh, Wayne! I consider 80's music "that new-fangled stuff!"" The guy in line in front of us burst out laughing and said, "you are so right!"

I then had to explain to another co-worker that just because a song is 'old', doens't make it an "oldie". An "oldie" is a very specific time in music. Opera is old music .... but it's not "an oldie"! icon_lol.gif

It seems I am always explaining history to someone. Another kid co-worker commented on how he never understood why people put down wall to wall carpet in a house. "It must have been cheap to do." So I had to explain, even tho' wall-to-wall came "in" during the late 60's, give or take, (especially as ranch houses became all the rage) it was the energy crisis of the 70's that really propelled it. It was an insulator for the floor and helped keep the house warm ... a direct defense against home heating oil shortages. He thought it was cheap. I told him, "oh no ... when I was a kid, if you had wall-to-wall, you were considered RICH!" He was absolutely shocked. He had no idea the energy crisis (that he'd heard about but wasn't even alive then!) had any impact on house design. icon_confused.gif So I said, "Ever notice how a 70's house had small windows? Another design to help keep the home tight ... to keep the heat in." The whole conversation amazed him.




OH MY GOODNESS! I have a friend, who when buying a house, would look at the "new ones" (that would be late 80's early 90's) and say "LOOK! They don't even have GUTTERS!!!" LOL

Let's see what else! OOOOO! Remember the portable washers that only held 2 lbs of laundry at a time and you hooked them up to the water faucets? I had an elderly friend that had one of those! Monday was wash day and I would go down and keep her company while she did her 4 lbs of weekly laundry! LOL I mentioned this in passing the other day and a "youngster" looked at me like I was INSANE!

Of course, there is always the story of when I went back to school at 27 yrs old and was sitting in the English Lit Class and the teacher asked one of the kids if he could quote any of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream". He said "Oh yeah, I think I read about him in my history class. Didn't he have something to do with equal rights?" WHAT? I realized then.....I had LIVED his HISTORY CLASS! LOL

Beth

indydebi Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:31am
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Of course, there is always the story of when I went back to school at 27 yrs old and was sitting in the English Lit Class and the teacher asked one of the kids if he could quote any of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream". He said "Oh yeah, I think I read about him in my history class. Didn't he have something to do with equal rights?"



oh! Oh! Oh! I have another one!!!

Talking to a friend who was telling me he was taking a night class and of course since it was a night class, it was full of older folks. The subject of "The Beatles" came up and one young man said, "Who are The Beatles?" Well, everyone started to laugh and the young man tried to backpedal with "Oh! Right! The Beatles! Paul McCartney's first back-up band!"

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I mean what planet are you living on if you don't know who The Beatles are!!!!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

bobwonderbuns Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:38am
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My son-in-law, who is a VERY smart young man and well educated in many things, told his wife (my daughter) that he's learned more about WWII (you know ... The Big One? It was in all the papers.....) from us than he ever did in school. And I've gone head to head with more than one history teacher who tried (repeat .... TRIED icon_twisted.gif ) to deduct points on my kids projects because the teacher was not as informed on WW2 as hubby and I are (we are big history buffs ... especially WW2 in the European theater).




Hey Indy, are you per chance a COMBAT! fan?? icon_wink.gif (you young ones will just have to figure that one out!) icon_twisted.gificon_biggrin.gif

bobwonderbuns Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:40am
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Of course, there is always the story of when I went back to school at 27 yrs old and was sitting in the English Lit Class and the teacher asked one of the kids if he could quote any of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream". He said "Oh yeah, I think I read about him in my history class. Didn't he have something to do with equal rights?" WHAT? I realized then.....I had LIVED his HISTORY CLASS! LOL

Beth




"I have a dream..." Geez, I thought that was a section in my closet! icon_lol.gif

Sugar_Plum_Fairy Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:50am
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Oh Indy-D! What ARE we going to do? I STILL sing the "Buckle Up for Safety" Song to little kids when they get in my car! They usually laugh and say "Auntie B! That's a funny song!" LOL

I also sing "C is for COOKIE 'that's good enough for me'" by The Cookie Monster on Sesame Street. Can you tell me how to get, How to get to Sesame Streeeeet! LOL

Oldies... the REAL Oldies (sorry youngsters...NOT the remakes) are the BEST!!

Beth in KY




I Love "C is for Cookie"! I had the Sesame Street record when I was a young kid with that song on it!!! From time to time my DH and I go to youtube to show our kids these things (like little snippets from the Electric Company, certain 80's videos, etc.). I purposely showed my two older kids (10 and 11) Billy Joel's We Didn't the Fire video. Oh and I sort of made the mistake of showing them Twisted Sister's We're Not Gonna Take It (unfortunately, my two year old started singing it!! icon_surprised.gif ). icon_redface.gificon_lol.gif

auntsteff Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:51am
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The group is Three Dog Night.

From Wikipedia: vocalist Danny Huttonâs then-girlfriend June Fairchild thought of the name when she read a magazine article about indigenous Australians, in which it was explained that on cold nights they would customarily sleep in a hole in the ground while embracing a dingo, a native species of wild dog. On colder nights they would sleep with two dogs, and if a night was especially cold, it was a âThree Dog Night"

I am 35. A few years ago I started college. I was taking an Honors class in American History where we had to do group projects. At the time, "Lost" was a new show. I asked one of the guys to tell me about the plot, and when he finished, I said that it reminded me of "Twin Peaks." Of course, they had no idea what "Twin Peaks" was, and then went on to inform me that I had graduated high school before he was even born. That was the first time in my life I realized that I truly was old enough to be someone's mother! And that someone was an adult!

playingwithsugar Posted 2 Sep 2008 , 1:58am
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Y'all make me so proud of my son, and thankful to my parents.

He's a freak for history, science, religion, philosophy, and civics. He never watches ABC, NBC, or CBS. It's always Discovery Channel, Military Channel, PBS. He loves films, especially Film Noir from the 30's and 40's - Bogart, Cagney, Robinson. He goes to museums and actually reads the plaques next to each display in the exhibits. His taste in music runs a gamut from Classical and Opera, through Big Band, the British Invasion, Classic Rock, through the 80's and 90's with Nine Inch Nails and the 21st Century, featuring Flogging Molly and Dropkick Murphy (Irish Punk).

I'm so proud of him to be so versed that he can hold his own with the best, yet is willing to listen to another person's opinion, as long as they can defend it.

And I thank my parents for instilling those interests and ideas in me, so I can pass them onto him.

Theresa icon_smile.gif

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