Need A Source For These Please-Cupcake Issues

Decorating By Lenette Updated 20 Jul 2008 , 8:54pm by Melvira

Lenette Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:18am
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I had a really bad time with cupcake liners today. They kept separating from the cupcakes. It was several out of 200 that looked really bad, it was for a wedding. I got it together so that it was presentable but want to avoid this issue in the future.

So I want to do the nut/souffle cups (I think that's what they are called) that have been discussed on here before. The white ones with the pleats and the roll at the top.

What size do I need for cupcakes, regular and mini?

What is a good source to get them in quantity?

The peeling thing hasn't happened to me like this before. I assume it was the humidity and change in temp? icon_confused.gif

I appreciate your help locating the cups. icon_smile.gif

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terrylee Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:39am
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bump........me too.

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:40am
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If you want a standard cupcake size then go for the 4 ounce nut cups... give me 2 seconds and I'll give you the link for buying them in bulk...

terrylee Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:42am
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and while I'm thinking of ..... how on earth do you transport 200 cupcakes. Is there a supplier out there for some sort of the clear plastic cupcake container.

kimsmom Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:44am
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Michaels sells the Wilton ones in the cake decorating isle. 24 to a package.You need a "standard" size nut cup for a regular size cupcake. I'm sure others will know where to buy them in bulk. Hope that helps.

melysa Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:46am
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times up melvira!

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:49am
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times up melvira!




Oh, you shush!! icon_lol.gif

Can you believe, I've lost my link!! I'm trying desperately to find it, I swear! They come in packs of 5000. That sounds like a lot, but I buy them locally at 250 per pack and I breeze through them at a ridiculous rate, so really buying in bulk is a good idea! I'm still looking I swear! Just another minute I hope!!! icon_redface.gif

melysa Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:51am
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lenette , sometimes when i use cheap liners or when i overbake, the cupcakes will separate from the liner. overbaking causes shrinkage. remove them a minute earlier from the oven and dont let them sit in the tins long while cooling.

i''ve also had the cc's separate from the liner when using the nut cups . my perfect solution for that, is to bake in normal papers , chill and then press them into the nut cups. you dont have any miss-shapen cc's, no oils or cake color showing through the liner. the cc also then comes out lower than the top of the nut cup liner and so filling it with a big swirl of frosting looks so perfect.

i like to tie ribbon around the nut cups too. such a pretty touch.

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:52am
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A-HA!!!

http://www.foodservicedirect.com/index.cfm/S/329/N/100989/Solo_Pleated_Souffle_Cups.htm

That's what I was looking for!! You want the second one down... the 4 ounce... that's the same size as a standard cupcake. The top one I also have for making a semi-jumbo size, and the 2 ouncers are great for mini cuppies. I know it seems like a lot of liners all at once, but man, you will LOVE them!!! They keep the cuppies fresher longer too! I've done 'experiments' with it, and it's true!

melysa Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:53am
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gasp! five thousand???? i dont think i want to come close to baking that many cupcakes any time soon- i'm getting sick of cake. think i'll stick to the 24pk from michaels. but perhaps i'll pester you for the link anyway. hurry. haha

melysa Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:54am
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oooooh, beat me to it. thanks!

terrylee Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:59am
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What about transporting that many cupcakes. What do you put them in....

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:59am
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Well, if you are baking for customers you will burn through those bad boys lickety split!! I mean, I am getting orders for 200 cupcakes at a time here, so it's not a big deal for me, but if you are talking about a novice baker who just does a few cupcakes once in a while, yah, that's too many! However, if you have any CC friends within a relatively short distance... split it with someone! Once I started using them it was all over for regular liners... I rarely use them now unless someone requests them, like if they want specific character liners.

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:04am
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Originally Posted by terrylee

What about transporting that many cupcakes. What do you put them in....




I personally buy my boxes and cupcakes inserts from Big River Packaging at www.brpboxshop.com They have excellent products, great service, FREE shipping via UPS no matter HOW much you spend (no minimum order) and I usually get my products the very next day after ordering! Also, I only live about 45 minutes or so from the company, so I have 'stopped by' to check out a few things and their staff is wonderful! They are friendly, accomodating, and seem like they care that I get what I want! That speaks volumes to me! If I am curious about an item, they will go pull a sample from stock and show it to me to be sure it's exactly what I am looking for. And, if you have a special item you want and they don't carry it, if you request it, they will do their best to create it and offer it! They are a great company in my experience!

leannsloan Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:08am
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Ok I am new at cupcakes so what is a nut cup and why are they better than reg cup liners thanks

terrylee Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:13am
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Thanks Melvira.....you are always so helpful. I'll check it out...this is my first time at a large amount of cupcakes..

and thanks Lynnette....your initial post got me and a lot of my other questions I got answered too.

twooten173 Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:17am
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You can buy them at GFS and Restaraunt Depot. I think the quantities there are like 500.

I put my cc's in a 1/2 sheet or full sheet box. I usually get about 50 per 1/2 sheet box. I refrigerate them before I transport them to help them travel better.

BRP is the BOMB!

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:26am
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No problem, it's my pleasure!

And twooten is absolutely right! You can usually buy smaller quantities at the restaurant supply stores. That's where I get mine. I usually buy a thousand at a time, but like I said, I burn through them pretty quickly!

What are they??? Follow the link I posted and you will see a pic... they are just pleated paper cups that you can bake it. Some people call them nut cups because they are commonly used at weddings to dispense little cups of nuts or mints.

As for why they are better... it's really a matter of personal preference! I like them because:
1. The seem to keep the cupcakes fresher longer.
2. You don't have to use a cupcake pan. You put batter in them and line them up on a cookie sheet to bake them, so I can get a lot more in my oven at one time.
3. They look professional to me, don't know why, they just do.
4. The way you get the cupcake out is kind of fun... it's almost like unwrapping a present!
5. They are supposed to be easy to decorate the cup, but I am apparently somewhat 'nut cup challenged'... I cannot get the stupid ribbon on there to save my life.
6. The are easier to transport and handle. To me, regular cupcakes can sometimes be top heavy and prone to tip. These have a nice flat bottom and they are not a lot narrower at the bottom compared to the top as you usually find with cupcake liners.

I just like them. It may just be a novelty at this point, but I enjoy using them and would encourage anyone to try them. Of course, I would suggest you get a package of 24 at the craft store to try them before investing in a large number!!! Just bear in mind the Wilton ones at the craft store are the 3.5 ounce (I believe... or is it 3.75?) and are a bit smaller than a standard cuppy. The four ouncers are perfect standard cuppy size!!

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:27am
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Originally Posted by twooten173

BRP is the BOMB!




Absolutely!! They've got my business! I adore them!

leannsloan Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:31am
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Thank you Melvira it sounds great does anyone have any photos that they would share with the cupcake in them decorated thanks Le'Ann

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:37am
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Here are some...
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leannsloan Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:41am
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Thanks again Melvira I do like them I will get some and try. Your cupcakes are beautiful by the way I see you fill them makes for a yummy cupcake thanks again for sharing

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:43am
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Thank you so much!! And yes, filled cupcakes are the most indulgent little treat! YUM! You'd be surprised how quickly you could rule the world if you motivated people with them! icon_lol.gif

Edited to add: And with my cuppies, it's like 'a little cake with the filling'! Hehehe. I love the filling! Can't help it!

jdelectables Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:51am
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Re: BRP, I've found that their cake boxes aren't high enough...just 4". Is this a problem for those of you that order from them? I prefer a 5" high box.

pogostik Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 4:53am
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Hi
I get mine from Gordon Food Service They come in a case of 5000
3.5 oz for about $90.00.
You have to order them but they are the cheapest I've seen.

If you live in Florida GFS sells them in their stores for about $5.00 for a sleeve of 250.

If you don't have GFS in your area I'm sure there is something like it near you. You might have to check their ordering catalogue but it is worth it.

twooten173 Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by jdelectables

Re: BRP, I've found that their cake boxes aren't high enough...just 4". Is this a problem for those of you that order from them? I prefer a 5" high box.




Scroll down to the bottome to see the 5" and 6" high boxes.
http://www.brpboxshop.com/index_all_bakery_boxes_with_images.html


Do you live near a Pat Catan's? They have 10x10x5 boxes for$0.52 and 12x12x6 boxes for $0.50.

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by twooten173

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdelectables

Re: BRP, I've found that their cake boxes aren't high enough...just 4". Is this a problem for those of you that order from them? I prefer a 5" high box.



Scroll down to the bottome to see the 5" and 6" high boxes.
http://www.brpboxshop.com/index_all_bakery_boxes_with_images.html


Do you live near a Pat Catan's? They have 10x10x5 boxes for$0.52 and 12x12x6 boxes for $0.50.




I was just going to say that! Order the taller ones and you'll be super happy!!!

melysa Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by Melvira

5. They are supposed to be easy to decorate the cup, but I am apparently somewhat 'nut cup challenged'... I cannot get the stupid ribbon on there to save my life.




this is where i pull out the ole' hot glue gun. a small dab of glue in the middle of the ribbon (placed at the backside of the cupcake), pull it forward and tie it. otherwise i cant get them to stay up. this works great.

Melvira Posted 20 Jul 2008 , 8:54pm
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Hmmm... I'll have to try that. I was trying to wrap a piece of ribbon around it flat, not tying it. I tried gluing it to the cup, I tried double sided sticky tape, it was SO annoying!

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