Mad Hatter/topsy Turvy - How To Create & Price

Decorating By sassycleo Updated 7 Jul 2008 , 2:10pm by -K8memphis

sassycleo Posted 6 Jul 2008 , 2:10pm
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I just got a request for the following Mad Hatter Cake. I've never done one so first off how do you figure out serving sizes on these odd shaped cakes?

She wants a cake to serve 130.

Also any thing special in the planning of it?

How do you figure out and come up with your pricing for these cakes?
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sassycleo Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 12:26pm
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Anyone have any idea on how to price this type of cake ? I really need your help!!!!

Petit-four Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 1:08pm
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Here's 2 methods:

http://www.cakecentral.com/article1-Instructions-For-Building-A-Whimsical-Tilted-Cake.html

http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=587795&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

Also, Collette Peters books? She is known for these cakes -- maybe someone owns one, and could tell you if she gives how-to info.

Pricing -- maybe check some websites, and see if they mention pricing for these -- I'd imagine probably priced similar to a 3-D cake...

Hope this helps!

-K8memphis Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 1:12pm
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They start at about $7 per serving plus I'd add on more for that many callas. Is that four tiers? I'd prolly go more like $8 minimum. the bottom tier I'd prolly do regular--not too whimsy-fied.

I would figure on enough batter to serve like about a third more folks like 180 then with a bit of carving and all and the wonkiness factor of some of the servings that should about get you 130.

And here's a link for another way to do it.http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=116859 I mean I always do BKeith's way. http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?showtopic=71115&hl=Demo:+Topsy-turvy+cake

What a cool cake!

sassycleo Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 1:29pm
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Thanks I appreciate the input. I wasn't sure what realistic pricing would be. I've got a hard time in my area getting $4/svg for fondant. icon_sad.gif So I doubt I'll get this one, but it's worth a shot!

Thanks again!

-K8memphis Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 1:32pm
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I mean you pretty much need to determine how you are going to make it, I mean which method you will use before you can determine sizes. I didn't look at the cake central links but I know whimsical Bakehouse has another method too.

Four tiers might be too big for 130 servings. But with a tt sometimes you have to go way too big to make it work but again depending on which method you use.

So that would be the next decision if I was making it.

Petit-four Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 1:48pm
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Actually, I would be interested in hearing from TT veterans -- which method do you use? The inset method (CC tutorial with carving) seems very complicated, and I wonder how hard it is to take apart to serve. Can you do Sarsi's method higher than 2 tiers?

(Sorry to take over your thread...)

icon_redface.gif And, if someone has CP's book -- are the directions in there different?

Hope you get it, Sassycleo...! thumbs_up.gif

-K8memphis Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 1:56pm
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Because I can't bake for myself and because this is therapy for me I figured it out a bit how I'd do it if I used BKeith's method and the servings so...

His method is using three different size cakes per tier -- I trim mine minimally so there's still carmelized cake around some of the edges. I don't trim off all the edges and so it retains a little strength.

I would do a

7
6
5
then a

9
8
7
then an

11
10
9
all sitting on a

14

If you take petal cake measurements which cut the least servings--you get approx

8 servings
20 servings
38 servings
77 servings - regualar 14" round

Which will just get you there but there's more batter used in those top three tiers too because they are taller than 4" so that would be a what I would make for that.

Just some topsy turvy thoughts for you. And I hope you get it too!!

-K8memphis Posted 7 Jul 2008 , 2:10pm
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And those sizes are not real scary either. I mean you start getting a tt that's bigger than 12 14 inches on the top edge and you need to start doubling up on the old prozac dosage.

And I think those sizes will work well for that dimension of stripes--I totally dig that cake.

Ok, shutting up now I promise. (But I love to plan cakes, vicariously is ok 'cause easier clean up.)

But actually if you cheated and did each tier like a

7
6
5.5

I think that would be better to add that half inch back into the bottom layer of eah tier.

So you'd be baking

7
6
6

9
8
8

11
10
10

And just trim that bottom layer in each tier a bit.
I think that's really a better call.

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