spoonfedcake Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:17pm
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I just saw about this site and their are alot of real talented people here. But I came across a picture that is clearly not real. How come they let them post pictures that are doctored? Isn't there a way to check? Look;

http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-photo_1160172.html

I saw lots of kool cookies but they were real cookies made with frosting or royal frosting and this looks like someone copied and pasted a picture, like a painting or clipart and put it on their cooky. How is that allowed? But there were lots of other really nice actual cookies in the pic section. Some of you'all are so talented!!

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lorrieg Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:26pm
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They are REAL cookies!!!!! She's an artist and does each one individually. Do a search for posts by her and you can find the thread where we discussed how much to charge for them.

gottabakenow Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:27pm
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actually, those are real cookies. for real.

Jenn2179 Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:29pm
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I have to say they are real cookies. The first one is her avatar and I remember the post about the cookies.

KathysCC Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:29pm
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These look like real cookies to me. The description on the Van Gogh flowers says they are hand painted and they look hand painted. We have some incredibly talented people here.

fearlessbaker Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:32pm
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There a lot very talented cake artists on this site. I know that some of members have taken Donna Dewberry's classes just so they can paint on cakes. But Cake Diva is definitly an artist and a good one too.

msauer Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:33pm
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What makes you think these are doctored photos?

I whole heartedly believe these cookies are real and original pieces of work by this decorator!!!!

You're right about one thing...there are some REALLY talented people on this site- AND SHE IS ONE OF THEM!!!! There are also alot of us who look out for one another and don't appreciate any of our work being questioned- especially in a forum!!!

Seriously...why couldn't you have sent the decorator a PM or something instead of trying to make a public display if you didn't think they were real??????

-Michelle

southerncake Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:34pm
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Actually, yes, they are quite real. CakeDiva73 is a very, very talented artist and cookie decorator. Her work is absolutely amazing.

Texas_Rose Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:35pm
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Those are real cookies. She's talked about how they were done before and I've done enough with fondant and cookies too to know that it would be possible (if I had her artistic talent icon_biggrin.gif which I don't).

You can paint on fondant using food colorings thinned down with vodka. You can also mix food coloring and white frosting coloring (the messy wilton one) to get opaque colors.

You can put fondant onto a cookie really easily. Just roll the fondant and cut it with the same cookie cutter you used for the cookie, and put it on top of the cookie when it's warm from the oven, and the heat of the cookie will melt the fondant just enough to stick it on.

I've seen some lovely cakes here which were achieved by painting on fondant...some done to look like Italian pottery and also some done to look like Mexican tiles.

veejaytx Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:37pm

Not to be mean to a brand-newbie such as you are, but as a newbie I would think you would be more cautious before accusing someone of falsifying their photos.

Cakediva is definitely an artist and produces beautiful, real, cakes and cookies.

DebBTX Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:37pm

Her cookies are absolutely beautiful. She is an artist that takes her time to create. They are wonderful to look at. For anyone taking that much care, they are sure to be delicious. icon_biggrin.gif

I look forward to the day when I can proudly display such a high level of skill.

-Debbie B.

buttercream_dreams Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:38pm

i dont think you are mean..or mean, mean...if someone was cutting and pasting pictures into their submissions i would be annoyed by it too..but what would anyone have to gain from that?

besides that, neither of those pictures look computer-ly altered to me..they look (and obviously are) real, real real. and i most likely wasnt even a member of cc, when they were originally posted, or discussed- meaning its a totally unbiased & uniformed opinion- but either way, they look real-and appparently are, which brings me to;
wow!
CakeDiva73
you are definitely very talented! awesome work!!

spoonfedcake Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:38pm

well it says the person is a person here but they don't look like anything you could eat. The blue one is all swirly but the flower one looks printed. I saw another one one here with an eye on it,maybe olympics or something and that one was cool but looked painted. (not by the same person- I will find it.)

ok, so she says she actually did them LOL. I have worked in a bakery for years and we do some cookies, mostly cakes that are sheet cakes but any kind of cookie we have done there is no way I can see of a non-printed way to make it look like that.

We just got one of those printers that print on paper you can eat and I think thats what she did was print it and stick it on there or something. Those printers are real fancy, we even charge extra for them! So I'm, not a total hick LOL.

dinas27 Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:39pm

Cake Diva is one of the most talented 'fine artists' that we have on this site!

I realize that you are new to this site but before you begin to make accusations in a thread where it is a public record you could PM the poster of the picture or report the photo to the moderators.

gottabakenow Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:41pm

no, they're not edible images. hand painted, both of them.

spoonfedcake Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:44pm

what is a PM? and I am sorry because i wasn't trying to sound mean, i was more wondering if they let you tinker with pictures on the computer before you post. Is that the normal thing to do or allowed?

So I didn't mean to attack this person and I am all over the place on forums but most of them just say the stuff and don't get their feathers so ruffled LOL. Shoot, I thought I was bein' right polite but I guess not.

and seriously, what can I pm? Or where do I find it. THX

Momkiksbutt Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:45pm

They are 100% real....

She's fantastic, and I am jealous!! icon_razz.gif

Texas_Rose Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:49pm

If you look in the picture with the flowers, you can see that part of the brown wasn't dry yet when she took the picture. It takes a while for food coloring to dry on fondant.

Lots of people here use the edible image printers for various things. It does give things a neat look...but that's not how that cookie was done.

Sometimes it's kind of humbling to see the kind of talent that some people here have...but just because you can't imagine creating something like that doesn't mean that it's not possible.

Just think of how you would feel if you posted pictures of some of your work (because I notice that you haven't yet ) and someone started a post basically calling you a liar...it wouldn't feel very good.

tiggy2 Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:52pm

I don't think anyone here "tinkers with their photos". They are all original works of art., good or bad. Maybe the bakery you worked in didn't hand paint cookies but some people do. It's very common to "paint" on fondant. Did your bakery cover cookies in fondant?

antonia74 Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 10:56pm
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Originally Posted by spoonfedcake

and seriously, what can I pm? Or where do I find it. THX




Okay, instead of just berating you, I'm going to help you here because I think the way you went about this was indelicate to say the least. I hope Cake Diva takes your accusations as a compliment reflective of how amazing and unbelievable her cookies are and not as an insult. I'm sure by the time your words have been slammed over and over in this thread, you'll think next time before you post.

To PM (private message) someone, you just click on their name under their photo in a gallery...OR you click on the little button that says PM under every post they make in the forums.

Doug Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by spoonfedcake

well it says the person is a person here but they don't look like anything you could eat. The blue one is all swirly but the flower one looks printed. I saw another one one here with an eye on it,maybe olympics or something and that one was cool but looked painted. (not by the same person- I will find it.)

ok, so she says she actually did them LOL. I have worked in a bakery for years and we do some cookies, mostly cakes that are sheet cakes but any kind of cookie we have done there is no way I can see of a non-printed way to make it look like that.

We just got one of those printers that print on paper you can eat and I think thats what she did was print it and stick it on there or something. Those printers are real fancy, we even charge extra for them! So I'm, not a total hick LOL.




just because you can't, doesn't mean someone else can't

I can't do sculptures but Michelangelo did "David"
I can't do portraits but Da Vinchi did "The Mona Lisa"
I can't design buildings but wow -- look at the stuff Frank Lloyd Wright did
I can't write novels but J.K. Rowling sure gave us a set didn't she.

Those ARE real -- if you look closely you can see the brush strokes, the oopsies.

and YES, as others have said, painting on fondant is a REAL thing you can do. Tho' having tried it once -- I'll leave that for pros like CakeDiva to do

and remember -- no commercial bakery could ever take the time nor charge enough to create those kind of one-of-a-kind, custom made, hand-crafted cookies.


and if you think that's outrageous....

well look at this one --

painting with BUTTERCREAM!!!!

http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-photo_36559.html

loriemoms Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:11pm

wow, this thread has me in shock! I am completly speachless!!!

CakeDiva, if you are reading this, I love your Stary Night (when I was in design school, I did a replica of The Church at Auvers. I just LOVE immating Van Goghs strokes and you did it just perfectly!)

I don't get this thread at all...it is VERY obvously a painted cookie!!! And very well done too! The orignal poster of this thread should, well, quite frankly go back to the hole from where she crawled in from!

Sigh.

loriemoms Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:13pm

Thanks for posting that, Doug! It is one of my favorite cakes! (I wonder if it was ever actually eaten!! I would have cried!)

Doug Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:20pm

working in the type of bakery that OP says she does = off the rack clothes from WalMart, et. al.

what CakeDiva and so many others on CC do, just like Colette Peters, Margaret Braun, Mike Carey, Ron Ben-Israel, Scott Wollery, etc. = HIGH couture -- Hermes, Louis Vitton, etc.

too totally different leagues

loriemoms Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:22pm

Man whats next..that our cakes aren't really cakes, and our gum paste flowers aren't really gum paste flowers and that our sugar bows are really sugar bows....

KathysCC Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:24pm

Everyone PLEASE go easy on the OP (original poster)...she just joined today. She is new and probably hasn't seen the level of cake decorating that is displayed here. Let's look at it as an honor that she thought it was an edible image and not hand painted. She is probably not familiar with hand painted cookies. Give her some more time to browse and PLEASE, no slamming, PRETTY PLEASE?

spoonfedcake Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:28pm

I know you are all quick to tell me what I did wrong and how I am so rude but what the heck is a pm? And why was that better than asking the question in an open forum?

I work at a commercial bakery, a VERY busy one! So I don't have pictures of my cakes because I sell 'em. But if my own talent is being questioned then I will hunt up a picture, and you can dog gone guarantee it will be a picture of a REAL cake or cookie that I made! with no printable paper or any of that nonsense.

I been looking around more and more and with all these business names across the pictures, was it that big of a jump to wonder if when they were putting those on they decided to add a little bit here and take a little bit off?

And I am sorry but neither of those two cookies looked like food or a cookie or anything that you would want to be puttin' in your mouth! And I'm no 'newbie' as you called me. I've been decorating for near ten years in the busiest bakery in town and can pipe a rose faster than you can blink. (I know that's a hard thing to master and I sure have and am proud of it!)

And I'm not new to the world of computers either. Just didn't realize this forum was so strict so I guess I'll just keep any kind of realistic or negative comment to myself. And I'll expect the same in return LOL.

Doug Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:34pm

Re: PM

look at the bottom of any post.

There's a PM button.

it's so you can send a Private Message to the person who made the post.

just like I'm going to do to you now.

and look on the left in dark dusty rose (i refuse to say PINK) box. See Private Message -- a number will show up there when I do! Click on Private Message and it will take you to your IN Box.

then click on the listed message to see what I have to say.

tiggy2 Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:35pm

Anyone that has taken a wilton course can pipe a rose. Maybe you coud show us your gumpaste flowers or carved, 3D cakes. The business names have been added to the cake photos so the photos can't be taken and used on someone's elses website.

veronica720 Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 11:35pm

This reminds me of another thread regarding photo comments that were just down right rude. That person also had just joined. I hope this is not someone just trying to stir up trouble..........

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