mija10417 Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 1:59am
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turned off of course. Make sure when you rush home from work and try to get dinner started, you don't preheat the oven without looking in it first!!

YEP!! Take a guess what happened to all my fondant figures I made!! MELTED!!

So if you do dry your fondant figures in the oven, make sure to put a note on the oven door for yourself so you don't end up with my disaster!

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SLK Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:08am
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Yep. Been there, done that. I stay clear of the oven now, just don't trust myself.

pinklesley1 Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:20am
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how do you dry them... just store them in the oven.... thats cool never thought of them... ususally i put them on my kitchen counter, where the ac vent hits and dry them that way... so can someone tell me how to do it... just store them or actually dry them... share

NanaFixIt Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:30am
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how do you dry them... just store them in the oven.... thats cool never thought of them... ususally i put them on my kitchen counter, where the ac vent hits and dry them that way... so can someone tell me how to do it... just store them or actually dry them... share




Put your pieces in the oven with the light on - no temp, just the light. It will heat enough to dry out the fondant / gumpaste quickly. HTH

pinklesley1 Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:32am
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cool.... im soo going 2 try that

lutie Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:41am
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... and add some Fixodent to your fondant... it really made my figures harden faster and better... without it, my fondant was way too moist with all the humidity. I do open the oven and turn my fondant pieces periodically, to make sure they will not stick and break when I try to remove them.

just_for_fun Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:44am
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does this have to be an oven w/ a pilot, or just a light?

pinklesley1 Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:44am
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i like the fixodent idea, but i pride myself on making
EVERYTHING
edible... and i dont think that you could eat it, if it has fixodent... and kids (i learned) eat EVERYTHING...

lutie Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:53am
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Remember that Fixodent is used in the mouth area. It stays in the mouth for hours and hours in those who use it. I use it for my fondant pieces (characters, etc. NOT the fondant icing) because they need stability. It gives a very slight minty taste to the fondant, but I have never had anyone eat my figures. They take them home as souvenirs of the cake... a couple of my clients told me that their kids ate a bow I made and thought it tasted great! Who knows what people like? I told her when I delivered the cake that there was Fixodent in the bows to make the bows stiff and she said she had no problem with it.

pinklesley1 Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:55am

how much do u use

-K8memphis Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:59am

I have a warming drawer under my oven that is invaluable for drying fondant pieces. It heats low, medium & high. I add cornstarch to my fondant pieces and let them dry in there for few hours on low. Works great.

Some decorators use those food dehydrators too.

lutie Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 3:05am

Pinklesley1, I use about 2 Tablespoons to half of my recipe (Michele Foster's recipe)... if it feels too sticky, I put in more (make sure you use the powder form... not the paste!). You can tell the feel after you knead it in the fondant. I got a bottle of it at the drug store for $3.77.

1nanette Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 3:08am

I have an electric oven and I just turn the temp as low as it will go and put my pieces in for about 1/2 hour. Then I take them and let them cool completely and they dry hard. I place them on cornstarch dusted cardboard before they go in. I also have a dehydrator but I only use when I havent procrastinated...."It still has that new car smell" icon_biggrin.gif

LeanneW Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 3:13am

the main ingredient that is in Fixodent or Ploygrip that will harden is Carboxy Methyl Cellulose or CMC.

It is an ingredient that is comonly in things like toothpaste and cosmetics.

It might have a slight laxitive effect if too much is eaten. (it's used in some diet pills)

I use CMC powder that I buy in bulk for my gumpaste recipe and my GP dries like beautiful porceline. I only use a very tiny bit in a GP recipe but I don't know how mush is in the fixodent.

I would use a tsp or less in a handful of fondant, see how that goes, maybe even start with half a tsp.

here is some more info about it

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/wholebody/ingredients/carboxymethyl.html

kurn Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 3:32am

I am new to the forums here and I can't believe how much I have learned in such a short time. I wish I had paid attention earlier.

THANK U for all the info.

pinklesley1 Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 3:48am

thank you luttie and leannew

4Gifts4Lisa Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 2:47pm

Every time I put something in the oven for "storage", I put a piece of tape (or a dot of icing...whatever is handy) over the "on" button of the oven. That way, if ANYONE in the family goes to turn the oven on, they know something is in there.

lutie Posted 13 Jun 2008 , 3:40pm

Oh, what a great idea! I usually let my cornbread pans dry out in my still-warm oven after I have rinsed and wiped them out and forget that I have them in there (until I turn on the oven to preheat it for the next meal). I will definitely put this on my oven somewhere to remind me, as I am the only one who is using the oven now, but becoming more and more forgetful. Once someone turns "29", it is all downhill icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

just_for_fun Posted 15 Jun 2008 , 10:50pm

i have also read somewhere that the best way to clean cookie cutters and not having them rust is to wash them immediately, and a cookie sheet, and put them in the still warm oven to dry.

JennaB Posted 17 Jun 2008 , 9:07am

All great ideas, I never would have thought of them. I tried drying fondant in my clothes dry and low heat, i did it only for a short time and thought that I sc@#%ed up because they were reallly soft, but it turns out, after taking then out, they hardened in no time. Going to try the fixodent thought.

tracycakes Posted 26 Jun 2008 , 6:26pm

I tried drying my fondant pieces in the oven - no heat, just the light - and they didn't melt but they definitely sagged and lost definition. It was a surprise cake for my dad so no big deal but it was really bad. I'm never trying that again. Now I wish I could find a good deal on a dehydrator.

wgoat5 Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 2:23am

oh did anybody mention you really shouldn't try this with a gas oven?

doitallmom Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 3:01am

leanne, do they actually carry the cmc at whole foods?

Mike1394 Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 10:07am

ALSO icon_biggrin.gif LOLOLOL. I was making some Orchids for my final. Well, they weren't drying fast enough for me. Yeah the oven will work. I loaded up a sheet pan, Cel Former, and all. Checked back in about 1/2 hr, no prob. Well about an hour later, all the lil Cel Former thingies shrunk. icon_surprised.gificon_evil.gificon_cry.gif Not good, not good at all. I borrowed them from school to make all of the flowers. So then I hurry around, and end up ordering 19 replacement packages. You can't buy the individual ones. You have to buy the whole package. GRRRRRR. That ended up being a $100.00 mistake that won't be forgotten.

Mike

jess85 Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 1:00pm

I use cellogen/tylo/cmc in my figures too. You only need to add about a teaspoon per 500g (approx 1/4pound)

Bossy Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 1:20pm

Where are you purchasing the CMC powder from???

Omicake Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 1:22pm

500 g.=1.10 pounds

projectqueen Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by wgoat5

oh did anybody mention you really shouldn't try this with a gas oven?




Could you explain, please?

The one time I tried doing this in my gas oven it was a total disaster. The fondant got all soft and mushy and I had to start all over again.

No one ever said not to try this in a gas oven. thumbsdown.gif

-K8memphis Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by projectqueen

Quote:
Originally Posted by wgoat5

oh did anybody mention you really shouldn't try this with a gas oven?



Could you explain, please?

The one time I tried doing this in my gas oven it was a total disaster. The fondant got all soft and mushy and I had to start all over again.

No one ever said not to try this in a gas oven. thumbsdown.gif




Well it's not the gas or electric part it's the amount of heat and the condition of your product. I mean my warming drawer says on LOW because I learned like everyone else what happens on MEDIUM AND HIGH, got some sweet melted toast! including the requisite morphed out plastic formers et al.

But I mean it's a dance you do. The product has to be dryable the heat has to be low enough. I should put a thermometer in there & see. I think it's under 150? I'll check & report back. Unless someone smart knows in the meantime.

wgoat5 Posted 27 Jun 2008 , 7:52pm

it gets hotter in a turned off gas oven with the light on.

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