i need to find a icing & a frosting that is not sweet sweet & and will smooth easily.
i also need a plain cake mixture that is not sweet sweet.
if anyone can help i would surely appreciate it, thanx!!!!!!

Recipes and sweetness are very subjective. One person may love the same recipe another finds disgusting.

The best think is to try a couple different styles. You should try at least one of the meringue based buttercreams. Swiss Meringue Buttercream (SMBC) is popular.

For cake, again, try a couple of recipes from good sources, although not everyone has good results from the same recipe. The Cake Bible has the recipes and the science around the recipes. Toba Garret's recipes are popular. And, there ae several highly recommended recipes in the recipe section.

thanks for your help, surely appreciate it

Hi Cajah--I see you're a newbie--welcome to CC!!

Have you tried the White Almond Sour Cream Cake recipe (also known as WASC) It's outstanding! You can leave the almond out if you need a plain vanilla cake--you can also alter this recipe and make it chocolate or yellow--it's a real crowd pleaser! You'll find it in our recipe section--

How do I search for this recipe? WASC does not appear in the recipes.
Thanks

Now here is the subjective part...I know a lot of people love the WASC cake but I think it's a very "wet" cake. I prefer either Toba Garret's or Sylvia Weinstocks for a vanilla cake.

What you need to do is experiment until you find what you like. It took me a while and I still experiement with different flavors.

For buttercream, definatly give the meringue BC's a try. I use IMBC. You'll find these are less sweet, smooth, they are buttery but when flavored with puree's, chocolate, ect they are delicious!