Msg From Fat Daddios On Testing Our Pans
Decorating By GregSkipper Updated 29 May 2008 , 4:32am by leah_s
Just wanted to add that I purchased a full set of square FD pans when I started my business and I've been very happy with them. My only problem is that I only have one of each size!
Thanks, Greg, for taking the time to post the information. I have two sets of FD square pans, and I always have trouble with the corners. The top edges curve downward. After your post, I'll definitely try reducing the temp to 300 or 325 and see if that works. Thanks so much for the advice!
I'm so impressed with your care and explanation of your product, I'm planning to invest in some pans with the revenue from my first sale of a wedding cake! so this comes just in time, I will be trying out FD pans!
Hi! I'm Petit-four of the "original" test (posted in the Cake Decorating Forum). One of our members pointed out to me Greg has posted his message about me in 3 different forums.
I would like to just note that I am not affiliated with any cake, pan, or baking manufacturer or shop in any manner. I was surprised at CC members' response to my "test." I just would invite CC members to read the original, complete post (which I know is long), so that they may see what I believe was a fair test. I have made a point of checking the post frequently, specifically to note and accomodate the many helpful suggestions of CC members, both ML and FD fans.
Thank you...and I'm baking another cake at the lower temperature tonight -- I'll post photos.
I am sorry, I see my original post has been deleted.
http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-588334.html
Sorry. I did not realize CC monitored the boards for comparative studies.
Thanks.
Please can we be notified when the link is on the website? Even if I do not get the link I will buy some of Fat Daddio's pans. I think the comma shape is cute.
Please can we be notified when the link is on the website? Even if I do not get the link I will buy some of Fat Daddio's pans. I think the comma shape is cute.
I LOVE my Fat Daddio pans; they are very easy to clean (my mom is amazed that I don't have to soak them before washing with a sponge) and they bake evenly every time.
I usually buy my pans from GSA but I'm now looking to buy the larger half round pans, the 16 and 18 inch sets, which GSA doesn't carry. I refuse to buy from "sugar -you- know- who.com"
because they were horrible when I did order from them last year...
so if anyone knows of another FD pan carrier please advise.
I've called and emailed Greg Skipper from Fat Daddio's, and he has not replied. However, I do see he has made sure CC has taken down my comparative test.
If you read what remains of the post I wrote, you will see I gladly included new information from CC members.
I am very sorry Mr. Skpper is so displeased with a comparative study of his pans.
Thanks,
Petit-four
Thanks for all the info!! I have FD's in my "to visit" vendors on ICES! See ya there!
I LOVE my pans; they are very easy to clean (my mom is amazed that I don't have to soak them before washing with a sponge) and they bake evenly every time.
I usually buy my pans from but I'm now looking to buy the larger half round pans, the 16 and 18 inch sets, which doesn't carry. I refuse to buy from "sugar -you- know- who.com"
because they were horrible when I did order from them last year...
so if anyone knows of another FD pan carrier please advise.
I thought petit four did a very kind and generous thing and I'm sorry she is being treated this way.
I really appreciate the info on these pans, right from the sources mouth, but it seems as though petit four just did an honest test to benefit us all. Could we all thank her?
Thank you.
And thanks for the additional FD info!
Thanks, Foxy Momma, but that link doen't work and I couldn' find the website by typing in the info
I thought petit four did a very kind and generous thing and I'm sorry she is being treated this way.
I really appreciate the info on these pans, right from the sources mouth, but it seems as though petit four just did an honest test to benefit us all. Could we all thank her?
Thank you.
And thanks for the additional FD info!
I didn't see her test, but would love to read it. Too bad it's been removed. I have had some problems with my FD pans, especially the square ones. That rounded edge on the on the bottom just kills me. I wouldn't have ordered if I known it was like that.
Petit-four, I am so sorry your post has been deleted. I think you did a fair comparison, and welcomed other cc member's own baking experiences with both pans. I thought that's what this site was all about. Sharing our personal experiences with products and techniques with other bakers.
I happen to love my ML pans, and bought one FD pan to try out, which I haven't done yet. I hope it works well, but I do have to say that when I bought my pan there weren't any intructions that came with it saying I needed to lower the oven temperature and shorten the baking time when using it. Maybe the company can post that on the website when you order, or include an instruction sheet, or sticker, to come with your pan.
JMHO
Ok, I am confused..........
Am I the only one wondering why, if this temperature issue is so CRUCIAL to the outcome of your product, it is not plastered all over the place? When you buy a pan does it come with clear instructions advising you of the temperature limitations?
Here is the link to their site:
http://www.fatdaddios.com/index.htm
Show me where it tells you that if you cook your cakes over 325 degrees (or whatever the instructions were) they will come out crumby and with ill-formed corners?
It should be in BOLD.
But more importantly, the only 'flaw' I saw in that experiment was the lack of instruction by the manufacturer. *ahem* Please enlighten me if I am mistaken, of course. But also, in all my years of talking cake and equipment on CC, I have only seen one person who mentioned anything about bake temperatures with FD bakeware and that was Leah.
You would think if it was this important, more then just one person or even a small handfull of this community would be aware of it?
petit-four
I still think that your test was a good idea because the typical customer doesn't test the product in a controlled lab with stainless steel ovens whilst wearing long white lab coats and goggles...we want to be assured that the products will work in our kitchen when we get home after a long day at the office, totally bummed out and have to deliver a perfect looking cake in 2 days!!
How were we supposed to know that the oven must be at a particular temperature in order for the product to perform effectively? There is no pamphlet or label informing us of such when we buy FD.
I believe that you had good intentions when you posted the results of your test! Now, thanks to Greg, we can conduct more extensive testing when we get the free pans!!!
I think the problem was with a flawed test (I highly doubt FD is paying them to remove it, ykwim?), and if it is important that they are baked at 325, I see no problem with them removing the test, as it is Cake Centrals board the last time I checked.
*Edited- I forgot to mention, that I DO appreciate the test- It was very informative- It just seems a bit misleading if it wasn't done properly- through no fault of her own.
Thank you for your reply. It is great to see a manufacturer stand up for their product.
Thank you for your reply. It is great to see a manufacturer stand up for their product.
I'm new to cake-ing, but I appreciated the test. It was very informative (as was the FD reply) and I just appreciate the info from all sources.
That being said, I think it was above and beyond for Petitfour to conduct that test in such a way that regular old people (like me) can see the results with our own two eyes and I'm glad I got to see the original post because I thought it was fair and well done.
I highly doubt FD is paying them to remove it, ykwim?), and if it is important that they are baked at 325, I see no problem with them removing the test, as it is Cake Centrals board the last time I checked.
I agree....Cake Central makes the rules and we have to play by them - I respect that and honestly appreciate all they do. And I don't think they were paid, I would put my money on being firmly encouraged to edit/remove that post. Ya know what I mean??
CC's gotta CYA......
I would like to thank Petit-four for going thru the trouble of testing the pans. It helped me when making my choice of purchasing my new set of ML pans. I love them!!!
Once again thanks Petit-four!!
I am new to cake decoratingand hopefully I'll have the chance to test your product. I appreciated thanks.
It's nice to see a business with decent customer service. That's a dying practice. Thanks. I hope I can be one of the lucky ones to try out your pans.
Tori
I agree with a lot of you...petitte four did a great job...actually I need to buy a square pan in the next days ....and her information was very helpfull...thanks pettite four
I saw the original post and I thought it was fair (in the sense of balanced, not in the sense of not-so-good).
I'm appalled that the post would be removed and if I had been thinking of buying FD pans, this would convince me not to.
The post with the test was removed? You're kidding, right?
It was someone's personal experience and the pictures showed her real results. Even though I do own and enjoy my FD pans, it was very good to have that visual of the difference with the two brands.
I just don't understand why we can't post our own experiences with products. What about all the Wilton-bashing posts? Would they be deleted if Wilton decided to give out free trial fondant?
The post with the test was removed? You're kidding, right?
It was someone's personal experience and the pictures showed her real results. Even though I do own and enjoy my FD pans, it was very good to have that visual of the difference with the two brands.
I just don't understand why we can't post our own experiences with products. What about all the Wilton-bashing posts? Would they be deleted if Wilton decided to give out free trial fondant?
rotflmao.....'free trail' fondant.......the only 'free' thing that's still turned down, lol! oops.......
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