Tips For Working With/icing Chocolate Cake?

Decorating By Michele25 Updated 17 May 2008 , 2:27pm by born2bake

Michele25 Posted 16 May 2008 , 12:36pm
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I hate working with chocolate cake!!!!! No matter how much I crumb coat, I feel like in spots you can always see the chocolate cake through the white (final) coat of icing. I try to make my crumb coating layer a little thicker when I work with chocolate cake, but I still feel like you can see it after the final icing. (I use the Viva paper towel method to smooth out my cakes after icing).

Does anyone have any tips for preventing the chocolate cake from showing through the icing? I have to make a chocolate cross Communion cake this weekend and am dreading it. That cross pan has so many contours to it, I know the cake will end up showing through and ruin the effect!!!

TIA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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awolf24 Posted 16 May 2008 , 12:55pm
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I use Wilton's icer tip with no crumb coat and it works great - crumbs never show through.

Have you ever thought of coating your cake with a simple syrup (equal parts sugar and water boiled together...you can add flavoring too) before you frost it? It give the cake a little more moisture and might help minimize the crumbs for you.

jmt1714 Posted 16 May 2008 , 1:01pm
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don't make the crumb coat thicker. chill the cake for 45 min after putting on the crumb coat. I also don't ice with "thick" icing ever (the texture of the icing itself I mean) because I find a it easier to coat evenly and consistantly when I have a "workable" icing.

Mike1394 Posted 16 May 2008 , 1:05pm
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I refrgerate also.

Mike

Trixyinaz Posted 16 May 2008 , 1:56pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by awolf24

I use Wilton's icer tip with no crumb coat and it works great - crumbs never show through.




Yep, that! I never crumb coat. The first time I iced a chocolate cake it looked awful. Then our instructor said to use the icer tip and ever since, my chocolate cakes come out perfect. Never a crumb in my icing. I also use a thinner BC when icing the cake. It is so much easier to work with and spread without pulling up the crumbs when you smooth it out. Good luck!

Michele25 Posted 16 May 2008 , 3:19pm
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Thank you for all the great tips!!

When you use the Wilton Icer tip, can you still use the Viva method to smooth the icing out afterwards? I wonder if smoothing the cake is when I'm running into some of my problems? Would the icer tip make the icing too thick and then I'll have "bulges" when I'm trying to smooth it out?

Trixyinaz Posted 16 May 2008 , 4:33pm
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I apply the icing using the icer tip all over covering every inch of the cake. Then I take my spatula (the metal one) and smooth it out, removing excess icing. Then once it crusts over, I do the viva method. Check out my photos. All my cakes are done that way, even my carrot cake with cream cheese icing.

Trixyinaz Posted 16 May 2008 , 4:55pm
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double post!

Trixyinaz Posted 16 May 2008 , 4:58pm
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Here are the pics that I'm referring to. I guess I should clarify. You can't just apply the icing with the icer tip and then smooth it with the paper towel method. You have to first smooth it using your spatula, scraping off the excess icing. Did that make sense?
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Trixyinaz Posted 16 May 2008 , 5:13pm
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Another tip that our instructor told us was to not lift up the icing when you are smoothing it with your spatula and if you do, to make sure you wipe your spatula on a paper towel instead of redipping it in your icing. Those crumbs multiply faster than bunnies icon_lol.gif

Just re-read the OP. It sounds like you aren't putting enough icing on your cakes if you can see the cake under the icing. You can argue that some people don't like icing which is why you do a thin coat of icing, but as someone once said to me, a cake looks terrible if you can see the cake through the icing so put enough icing on so you don't see your cake and if someone doesn't like icing, they can scrape it off. HTH.

Michele25 Posted 16 May 2008 , 7:00pm
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Thank you SO much, Trixyinaz for all of your help! And, thanks for clarifying to use the spatula after applying the icing with the icer tip. That makes perfect sense! Your icing (and cakes) look great!!

Trixyinaz Posted 16 May 2008 , 7:28pm
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Okay Michelle! Your cakes are beautiful! I think I need to get some pointers from you! Let us know how your chocolate cake comes out this weekend!

born2bake Posted 17 May 2008 , 2:27pm
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Thank you so much Trixyinaz for your detailed advice on using white frosting on a chocolate cake. For a cake I'm making I wanted to have a top tier of chocolate cake but was to afraid for fear and hate for the 'chocolate crumb' issue. You put my fears aside and now I just may give it a try.

B2B

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