Help With First Major Wedding Cake

Decorating By luelue1971 Updated 2 May 2008 , 4:34pm by Shelly4481

luelue1971 Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 2:02pm
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Here is a picture of the cake the bride wants except she wants square cakes with edible lilies. She also want 2 sattelite cake like the tiered one pictured.

I can't seem to find any square plate and pillar sets. Can you get this anywhere?

What size cakes do these need to be?

In my area cakes range from $2.75 - $3.50 per serving. Do I add the costs of the plates, fountain to that?

Any advice is welcomes and appreciated. I've got to give this girl a price and don't know where to start.


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Tellis12 Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 5:38pm
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I would definitely add the cost of the fountain to the price of the cake and if the plates are going to cost you much more than what you would use for just a regular tiered cake, I'd add that on as well. Don't forget that if you're making the lilies from gumpaste or something you should charge a bit more for those too. They take a lot of time!

KHalstead Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 5:48pm
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you can't charge the total cost of the plates and pillars for the cake!! That would be like me charging every customer for the cost of my cake pan......I'll be using it over and over again as you will with the pillars. Your deposit should be exactlly how much all the plates, pillars, fountain, etc. cost so if it's not returned in good working order then you have the money to replace it........but you can't charge that to EVERY customer. I would charge a deposit of however much it costs you to buy all the items and then maybe you can charge a portion of that as a "rental fee" say $50.00 or whatever you choose. Hope that makes sense.

jadak Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 5:59pm
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I do not think you can charge the customer for pillars and fountains unless you are going to let them keep them. I do think you can take a deposit that equals what those items cost...which would then be returned to the customer when the items are returned with no damage. Beyond that, you need to decide on a price per serving that either does or doesn't include the cost of the flowers. If it doesn't include the flowers, you need to add the cost of those to the cost of the entire cake. For example you could charge $2.75 per serving+$3 per flower (or whatever they'd cost...I don't make them) or just price it at like $5 per serving which includes all of the edible flowers.

amytracy1981 Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 6:19pm
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The pillars and plates don't come together as a set (at least I have never seen them sold that way). You have to buy the individual plates and then the pillars , which come in a set of 4 per package.

Ok, I just checked the Wilton website and you can buy the pillars and the plates together in a set (oops). Or you can buy the seperatly. I only see the round plates in a set though, not square.

Here is a link to Wilton. You can probably find them cheaper if you do a search on google though.

crazy4sugar Posted 30 Apr 2008 , 6:42pm
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I get square, plastic support plates from

They are Bakery Craft plates that fit together for a "single plate system" and cost about $3 per plate.

luelue1971 Posted 2 May 2008 , 12:59am
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I found out the bride is expecting 150 -175 guests so I was thinking of a 16 " square, a 12" square and an 8" square for the main cake and for the 2 sattelite cakes an 8" and 6" each.

Do you thing those proportions will work?


indydebi Posted 2 May 2008 , 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by luelue1971

I found out the bride is expecting 150 -175 guests so I was thinking of a 16 " square, a 12" square and an 8" square for the main cake and for the 2 sattelite cakes an 8" and 6" each.

Do you thing those proportions will work?


A 16" square cake alone will serve 128 people!! (1x2x4 industry standard servings, so you'd cut the cake into 16 rows by 8 columns. 16x8=12icon_cool.gif

16 serves 128
12 serves 72 ..... there's 200 right there
8 serves 32

8/6 serves 32/18 (total of 50) so two satellites this size will serve 100.

Your configuration will yield 332 servings. Does the bride want to pay for twice as much cake as she needs just so she can have this design?

There is nothing wrong with telling a bride "You can't have that design for only that many people." I've done it. I may be stupid or someting, but I can't figure out how to make a 5 tier cake to serve 75. icon_eek.gif

So she can have twice as much cake as she needs ( and she pays for it!)
She can opt for styrofoam cakes (and pay for them!)
She can change the design to one that fits 150-175 people.

(even a 14/10/8 round serves 140 + 8/6 rounds serves 36, times 2 = 72. 140+72 = 212 servings if you use smaller cakes and round).

Shelly4481 Posted 2 May 2008 , 4:34pm
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You can also buy the square ones at countrykitchensa. com. I ordered a set a month ago. Had to buy plates seperate then pillars.

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