mvigil Posted 27 Jul 2005 , 4:58pm
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I am looking for a rectangle seperater plate with little pegs underneath for pillars to attach to . I hope that makes sense. I have bean asked to make a wedding cake in September, 3 tier two of the cakes will be rectangle shaped . The design of the cake is very different from a usaual wedding cake, but it is very personalized to the culture of the wedding party. I am very honered to be asked to make this cake. And I want to make it possible . Soo any help would be great . icon_smile.gif

Thanks so much!

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cakegal Posted 27 Jul 2005 , 5:00pm
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I've never seen rectangle separator plates...
I hope you find them....The cake sounds very interesting..
cakegal

APCakes Posted 27 Jul 2005 , 8:33pm
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I belive you could use a square separator plate, and just place the rectangle cake board on top of it, securing it with icing or glue. The plate should hold the bulk of the weight, but depending on how far the rectangle extends beyond the square, you could place some dowells in to support it. Good luck!

mvigil Posted 27 Jul 2005 , 8:50pm
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thanks so much for your reply's. The second tier will be a little shorter than the first . My first tier the bottom will be a Two layer 12x18 in. yes thats very big. What Im making is an Adobe house southwestern style. If any one knows what that looks like and the second tier is a smaller verison . and then the 3 tier is just a round 8 in for the couple . Will the square seperater plate be enough to support????

SquirrellyCakes Posted 27 Jul 2005 , 10:42pm
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You need the full cakes supported in this case. So why not use masonite boards for the upper tier and make certain you have a good strong base that is supporting all of the cakes, like 1/2 to 3/4 inch thick plywood. You can use masonite with pillars in between, the hidden pillars might be your best bet.
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mvigil Posted 27 Jul 2005 , 11:19pm
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Thanks so much squirrlycakes for the reply.

This is my first wedding cake ever and I really want to personalize it to their culture. This seams to be the only challenge in this progect . Decorating the caks Im not even nerves about it.I know this is my first wedding cake ,but the construction of the tiers seems to be the only hard part. I have not herd of the masonite boards or the hidden pillars,since Im still knew to all of this.Could you tell me more about this??

mvigil Posted 27 Jul 2005 , 11:59pm
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OK I checked what masonite boards were I have anather ?? How do I apply the pegs to the bottom,of the board .My husband might get this better then I. I think I need two of this boards one upside down for under the first cake and a second for the second tier. Right??? So the pillars wouldnt go int the firt cake Right? Sorry Im trying to visualize this.

ntertayneme Posted 28 Jul 2005 , 12:02am
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I think Wilton makes what they call "hidden pillars".. I'm not sure if they have to fit in a cake plate or not .. you may be able to use those .. not sure though .. please post pics of it when you've finish.. can't say I've ever seen a wedding cake in a rectangler shape.. I know it will be beautiful icon_smile.gif

SquirrellyCakes Posted 28 Jul 2005 , 3:48am
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Originally Posted by ntertayneme

I think Wilton makes what they call "hidden pillars".. I'm not sure if they have to fit in a cake plate or not .. you may be able to use those .. not sure though .. please post pics of it when you've finish.. can't say I've ever seen a wedding cake in a rectangler shape.. I know it will be beautiful icon_smile.gif



Yes, I agree that would be an easy way of doing it and that would absolutely be my first choice! These pillars act also as dowels. Hidden pillars are about 6 inches high, they are sort of like hollow tubes but very strong. They are trimmable. They are at there most stable when there is not a lot of them exposed, when they are mostly in the cake with a small space in between them and the next boarded tier above. This is the most popular current design. What you do is make sure your bottom cake that they are sitting in is really well boarded or supported, you would likely use a super strong plastic cake base plate or 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch plywood for your base. Now some folks also board the cake that will sit on the base and others put the cake directly on the covered base. So you take these hidden pillars, usually use 4-6 of them and you push them into the bottom cake until they reach the cake board or cake base. You want to have a good sturdy dense cake when you are doing anything like this. Then your masonite boarded next tier would just sit on the top of these pillars.
If you are going to have a board directly on the bottom cake, then pillars then another board on top of the pillars, you would have to glue the pillars to the in between of the two boards. For this size of cake you should use at least 6. You would also have to dowel the bottom cake to handle this as otherwise the boards and cakes will be sitting on the bottom cake unsupported and sink into the cake and icing and ruin your bottom layer.
Now I know there are likely folks that will tell you to use spiked pillars. These are pillars that are more narrow at the bottom so that they can be stuck into your bottom cake until they reach the board or base this cake sits on. Personally I would steer clear of these like the plague. To use these you need a very deep cake that will give extra support and I wouldn't even attempt it for this application as your cakes are large and will be heavy.
You could still use two separator plates with pillars in between for your smaller top round tier or you could glue pillars in between two masonite boards or whatever.
Hhmn, did that make sense to you/
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