allycook Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:18am
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Well, I tried the fixodent in my fondant today as was mentioned a few days ago in a post. I love it! It makes it just like gumpaste, very stretchy and able to roll thin, and very easy to work with. I even mixed some fixodent with a little water to make a glue. I made figures and so they are still drying. Give it a try if you haven't already. It makes that left over fondant go the extra mile.

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loree001 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 2:00am
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I missed the FIXODENT???? icon_confused.gif Care to elaborate?

okieinalaska Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 3:06am
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What??? Haven't heard of that either.

stephanie214 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 4:02am
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Just add the powder(have to be powder form) to your MMf...makes it dry faster and harder.

The amount that you add depends on the amount of fondant that you are using...trial and error thumbs_up.gif .

loree001 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 11:38am
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Wow, Stephanie...I'll have to try that! And it's edible?

jmt1714 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 11:57am
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all of the links I find reference using fixodent only if the product isn't going to be eaten.

Ingredients include: Polymethyvinylether Maleic Acid Calcium-Zinc Salt, Petrolatum, Mineral Oil, Cellulose Gum, Silicon Dioxide, Flavor, Red 27 Aluminum Lake


since I dont' know what ANY of those things are, I wouldn't put them in or on a cake. Just my opinion, though.

Jenn2179 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 12:04pm
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Not sure if it's edible but people use it for their dentures which they put in their mouth.

MikeRowesHunny Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 12:05pm
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all of the links I find reference using fixodent only if the product isn't going to be eaten.

Ingredients include: Polymethyvinylether Maleic Acid Calcium-Zinc Salt, Petrolatum, Mineral Oil, Cellulose Gum, Silicon Dioxide, Flavor, Red 27 Aluminum Lake


since I dont' know what ANY of those things are, I wouldn't put them in or on a cake. Just my opinion, though.




Yeah, I tend to agree, but let's face it, that stuff is meant to go in your mouth (to hold those falsies!), so it can't exactly be poisonous, can it icon_confused.gificon_lol.gif !

jmt1714 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 12:08pm
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well, not necessarily. Toothpaste goes into your mouth, but it can make you sick if you ingest it. This is especially true for kids. Read the label (well, here in the US anyway).

allycook Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 12:14pm

I would just use it for those things which aren't going to be eaten such as figures and large flowers. I couldn't find the ingredient list on the box but I am with the others it's not going to hurt someone to have it in items that are just sitting on a cake. You wouldn't want to eat it because it does have a minty smell and taste and would change the flavor.

MikeRowesHunny Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 12:16pm
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well, not necessarily. Toothpaste goes into your mouth, but it can make you sick if you ingest it. This is especially true for kids. Read the label (well, here in the US anyway).




I'm not saying we should all go out and eat Fixodent, but unlike toothpaste it is designed to be in the mouth for hours doing it's job, toothpaste is meant to be spat out, so there is a difference there, don't you think?

jmt1714 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 12:48pm

Well, we can agree to disagree. I'm not trying to convince anyone one way or the other - Just saying I wouldn't use it in a cake or in decorations. Totally 100% my opinion only.

lynda-bob Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 12:49pm

WOW! This is interesting icon_surprised.gif I think I'm going to go Google Fixodent... I would automatically assume that Bonjovibabe is correct, though.... I'll be back icon_lol.gif

Lynda icon_biggrin.gif

lynda-bob Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:03pm

I went to look up info. (fixodent.com) and it said non-toxic w/ proper usage. But it did also have something that said that if it were ingested in large amts. it could cause nausea or vomiting. People aren't really supposed to eat the gumpaste stuff on our cakes either, right? Is that just because they don't taste good or is there something bad for you there? This is not a rhetorical question, either; I really don't know the answer icon_redface.gificon_lol.gif Could someone help me with that one? Also, the Luster dusts aren't supposed to be eaten in large quantities? But some whole cakes are 'painted' (w/vodka or other extract) w/ luster dusts, right? I need some more info. all the way around icon_razz.gif But really, I'm intrigued about using the fixodent kind of like gumpaste!

Lynda

loree001 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:12pm

Wow, thanks for all the replies regarding ingesting! But you're right, how many people actually sit and 'eat' the bow on top of the cake? Nada...not even little kids...

SophieBelle Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:30pm

So if we do want to try it, what do we do with the fixodent? I'm so curious!

lynda-bob Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:33pm

I think I'm going to wake the kids up and drag them to the store for some Fixodent icon_lol.gif I think we just knead the powdered Fixodent into our MMF until we feel that it's stretchier; is that right? icon_biggrin.gif

sweetiemama Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:35pm

Well...I know petrolatum and mineral oil are used in skin care here in the U.S., and most people put that on their skin, which goes into your body, so if you use products with those ingredients in your lotions then you should be o.k. with eating them too!!!

OhMyGoodies Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:42pm

I think as long as you tell your customers "The decorations on the cake such as the bow, or flowers, or bears, or what have you, are not meant to be eaten, they are meant strictly for decoration." would probably get the point across, although that customer may not tell their guests and someone may ingest too much of the product...

My father has dentures and uses the tube stuff similar to toothpaste to affix his and I don't think I've ever seen a powder form of this product... how would powder hold your dentures in unless you mix with water to create a paste.. Ok I just answered my own question lmao... Anyway if he adds too much of the paste to his dentures I've seen him have trouble with them and he will remove them and clean up the excess from his mouth as well as the partial... so as to not ingest it... so I don't think it's something I would be using for something someone is going to be consuming because they may not listen or their guests may not be informed and I'd hate for someone to call me up and say "I forgot to mention it to my party guests and Mary ate the cute little bear on the cake and started vomiting and having stomach pains I think she may have food poisoning and I want my money back" I personally would not want that reputation of including items on my cakes that would make someone sick to the extent of vomiting if they ate it..... Normally unless the item is plastic people assume everything on a cake is edible...

allycook Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 1:50pm

I bought the powder at $5.99 a bottle. I just squirted a dime size into a tennis ball size of fondant and kneaded it in. It works great and really makes the fondant stretchy and able to roll thin. It dries hard rather quickly but not as quick as gumpaste.
Give it a try, all you have to lose is a few dollars.

lynda-bob Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 2:03pm

I think I'm going to give it a try for some deco. on my niece's b-day cake this weekend, allycook thumbs_up.gif At least it's family I'll be with and I can enforce the "no eat" policy icon_razz.gif But I still would like to know about the gumpaste and luster dust; I'm off to Google again, I guess icon_rolleyes.gif I'll be back icon_wink.gif

jmt1714 Posted 23 Jul 2007 , 2:06pm
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Well...I know petrolatum and mineral oil are used in skin care here in the U.S., and most people put that on their skin, which goes into your body, so if you use products with those ingredients in your lotions then you should be o.k. with eating them too!!!





ON the skin and INTO the body aren't the same thing at all!!!!
Otherwise why would so many medications be labelled "for external use only"?

I have no problem using petroleum jelly but I certainly wouldn't want to eat the stuff. Mineral Oil too.

Honestly, if you are comfotable using fixodent in your cakes, more power to you.

My rule is if I'd be uncomfortable telling someone the ingredients, I don't use it.

southerncake Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 11:28am
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Originally Posted by sweetiemama

Well...I know petrolatum and mineral oil are used in skin care here in the U.S., and most people put that on their skin, which goes into your body, so if you use products with those ingredients in your lotions then you should be o.k. with eating them too!!!




ON the skin and INTO the body aren't the same thing at all!!!!
Otherwise why would so many medications be labelled "for external use only"?

I have no problem using petroleum jelly but I certainly wouldn't want to eat the stuff. Mineral Oil too.

Honestly, if you are comfotable using fixodent in your cakes, more power to you.

My rule is if I'd be uncomfortable telling someone the ingredients, I don't use it.




I am completely comfortable telling my customers that I use Fixodent for my hardened decorations. I actually have shared it with several just in coversation and they think it is interesting -- not a big deal! I have used it for many, many years. I would be more worried about someone breaking a tooth trying to eat a bow or monogram or baby booties off the top of a cake!

southerncake Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 11:34am

Oh and I forgot to add...I would assume the reason the website said it could cause nausea, diarrhea, etc. would be because mineral oil is a very commonly used laxative.

Lynda-Bob -- I too have wondered the same thing about luster dust. I have yet to cover an entire cake with it and have only used it for hardened decorations that I knew would not be eaten; however, I have a bride in September that wants the entire cake covered in luster dust and I just don't know how I feel about it!

darandon Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 12:16pm
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I went to look up info. (fixodent.com) and it said non-toxic w/ proper usage. But it did also have something that said that if it were ingested in large amts. it could cause nausea or vomiting.




For the most part, when the companies talk about not ingesting large amounts, it pretty much would be tubes of the stuff, not a little amount that would be used in hardening decorations.

Large amounts of ANYTHING - Buttercream, fondant, Cake, even good old plain WATER can cause the same effects of nausea or vomiting.

just my 2 cents.

southerncake Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 1:02pm
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I went to look up info. (fixodent.com) and it said non-toxic w/ proper usage. But it did also have something that said that if it were ingested in large amts. it could cause nausea or vomiting.



For the most part, when the companies talk about not ingesting large amounts, it pretty much would be tubes of the stuff, not a little amount that would be used in hardening decorations.

Large amounts of ANYTHING - Buttercream, fondant, Cake, even good old plain WATER can cause the same effects of nausea or vomiting.

just my 2 cents.




Exactly! My degree is actually in horticulture and I was a grower for a couple of different greenhouses for several years. One of them made us tell every single customer who purchased poinsettias that they could be poisonous to your children/pets. A child or pet would have had to have eaten lots and lots of poinsettias to become sicker than they would eating any other plant justing lying around the house!! I think these days everyone feels they have to cover all their bases to be safe!

darandon Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 1:13pm
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I think these days everyone feels they have to cover all their bases to be safe!




That's the exact reason Fast Food Restaurants had to put "Caution: Hot" on the side of a COFFEE CUP.

allycook Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 1:22pm

I too have wondered about the Luster Dust. I think it has some of the same ingredients as the mineral makeups.

southerncake Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 2:31pm
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That's the exact reason Fast Food Restaurants had to put "Caution: Hot" on the side of a COFFEE CUP.




Yes, that one kills me!!! There is also a little diner-style restaurant that only does take-out in my town. A lady once complained about how "hot" the "hot apple pie" was (the little fried pies). Now, they write "HOT" on each wrapper!

I guess the bottom line is if you are worried about it then don't use it. There are plenty of other alternatives. I personally have no problem using it and don't know what I would do without it!

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I too have wondered about the Luster Dust. I think it has some of the same ingredients as the mineral makeups.




I use mineral makeup and I definitely don't want to eat it!! I have gotten it in my mouth before if I was applying makeup and talking and not paying attention! It didn't taste so great, but it didn't make me sick icon_wink.gif !!!

superstar Posted 24 Jul 2007 , 8:08pm

You only use a little of the Extra Strength Fixodent Powder, it is not enough to make you sick & it does work very well, it certainly hold up in humidity. I like it a lot.

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