hanksmart Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 4:31am
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Is it possible to turn fondant into gum paste? I need to strengthen my fondant to create a topper out of gum paste. Is this possible? Specifically, i am using chocolate fondant. Thanks!

First post... am loving reading all the help and discussions!

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doreen1092 Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 4:39am
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i would like to know as well... sorry no help

joang Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 12:15pm
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In the books I have from england they put either gum trag......dont know how to spell it or tylo powder in sugarpaste to make modeling paste. I dont knoe if that is the same as gum paste????

Joan

antonia74 Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 12:33pm
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Squirrelly Cakes (a member on here) told us about being able to use one packet of Polident powder to a baseball-sized piece of fondant. When you mix the two, they end up just like gumpaste! icon_smile.gif

I've never tried it.

hanksmart Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 1:40pm
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Do you have an amount per pound of gum trag?

coconut299 Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 1:47pm
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Also my first post, but I've lurked for a while. icon_redface.gif

I have made gumpaste by adding Tylose powder to prepared fondant. The proportion I used was 1 T. tylose to 1 lb. of fondant. But if it's very humid, you may need a little more.

The easiest way I've found to do this is to sprinkle the work surface with the Tylose and knead the fondant over it until the powder is mixed in well. Hope this helps!

ibmoser Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 1:54pm
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Toba Garrett gave us a formula for "quick gumpaste" made using 1 pound of commercially prepared fondant and 1 teaspoon of Tylose kneaded together with 1/2 teaspoon of shortening. Nicholas Lodge said that this did work, but the resulting gumpaste is not quite as strong as regular gumpaste. Adding more tylose will help it to dry faster, but you will need to work quickly icon_lol.gif

KittisKakes Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 1:56pm
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I've added the powdered fixodent to fondant and it works really well!! Add about 1 tsp of powdered fixodent to a wad of fondant/MMF about the size of a baseball. It has to be the powdered fixodent. Here are a few cakes where I've used "fixed MMF"

The spout and handle
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=309683

Tink's wings
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=24342

The body and extremities
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=25490

punkyf Posted 7 Jul 2007 , 8:21pm
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This may be a silly question, but do you mean the fixodent that you put on false teeth and could this be eaten after putting it in the MMF?

KittisKakes Posted 8 Jul 2007 , 2:08am

Yes, that's the fixodent I've used - powdered fixodent for dentures. It goes in your mouth, so it's definitely not toxic. But if you're trying to get a piece to harden, just like gumpaste, then that decoration usually is not meant to be eaten.

beachcakes Posted 8 Jul 2007 , 2:16am

I'm a fan of using commercial fondant w/ tylose powder kneaded in. I live in a high humidity area and this dries faster/harder than regular gumpaste!

punkyf Posted 13 Jul 2007 , 11:31am

Could you use gumtex instead of tylose in your MMF to make it stiffer. I'm trying to make the bill of a ball cap and I don't have tylose but have some gumtex.

KittisKakes Posted 13 Jul 2007 , 12:51pm

Yes, gumtex will also work.

punkyf Posted 13 Jul 2007 , 1:20pm

Thank you for getting back so quickly. I haven't done a lot with gumpaste type things and I'm going to try a ball cap for my grandsons 1st BD.

Noura80 Posted 19 Feb 2012 , 5:36am

so what's the ratio exactly? is it 1 tablespoon of tylose to 1 lb of fondant or is it 1 teaspoon of tylose to 1 lb of fondant?

sing Posted 19 Feb 2012 , 6:43am
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Originally Posted by coconut299

Also my first post, but I've lurked for a while. icon_redface.gif

I have made gumpaste by adding Tylose powder to prepared fondant. The proportion I used was 1 T. tylose to 1 lb. of fondant. But if it's very humid, you may need a little more.

The easiest way I've found to do this is to sprinkle the work surface with the Tylose and knead the fondant over it until the powder is mixed in well. Hope this helps!




That's what I do too thumbs_up.gif

Shan1781 Posted 19 Feb 2012 , 9:52am

I make mine with 500g fondant, 1/2 teaspoon tylose, 1/4 teaspoon cream of tartar and 1/4 teaspoon egg white, I knead all together and leave over night.... it is beautiful to work with icon_smile.gif (you will need to convert the amounts to US measurements)

ChiWOWa Posted 30 Apr 2012 , 10:52pm

Hi all,
I would like to try making gumpaste flowers for my daughter for her Mothers day cake and would like to try this recipe too.
Do you need to "rest" this before using or can you start rolling and forming as soon as the Tylose is mixed in?

Thanks in advance!
Cheers
Terry

cowie Posted 30 Apr 2012 , 11:20pm

I just add the amount of tylose powder that I need. Depends on the weather too. I even add a small amount sometimes to fondant so it's not too soft, but not enough to make it gumpaste.

carmijok Posted 30 Apr 2012 , 11:37pm

When you add tylose to fondant it does NOT make gum paste. It makes the fondant stiffer and it will dry faster, but true gum paste can be rolled paper thin without tearing and dries so much faster than the fondant/tylose mix. I used to work for a bakery that did this and all their bows and figures and flowers were thicker and heavier than those made with real gum paste.

It wasn't until I left and made my first bow that I used Wilton's pre-made gumpaste and I have never looked back.

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