No Hair Nets On Ace Of Cakes

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BaltimoreCoutureCakes Posted 8 Apr 2007 , 8:28pm
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What about the episode when they made the gingerbread house for Duff's brother. They were eating the candy right out of the bowls that they wee using to decorate the cake.

mgdqueen Posted 8 Apr 2007 , 8:40pm
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I would be doing the same thing if I were making something for my brother. I'm not trying to be snippety, just honest. It's different when it's for family. thumbs_up.gif

Kitagrl Posted 8 Apr 2007 , 9:06pm
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Wearing gloves or not wearing gloves is one of those things that, to me, is symbolic. You've got to have the good habits to start with. So someone wears a glove .... how does that stop them from scratching their head or picking their nose or scratching their butt with the glove ON and then going right back to preparing my food?



Amen!

I have seen studies that consistently show that food-handlers who wear gloves have much nastier habits than food handlers who don't.

Personally, I hate seeing food handlers with gloves on - especially latex gloves. Latex gloves ought to be outlawed from food places. My husband has a life-threatening allergy to latex, and gloves are the worst! Of course, those who take money should not also be handling food. That always reminds me of the cooked shrimp and seafood that is placed alongside the raw seafood in the seafood cases at grocery stores. icon_confused.gif Gross!

A freshly-washed pair of hands touches all of my cakes, icings, and fondant. I could not work with fondant wearing gloves!




I must agree... I notice when I can feel every little thing that gets on my hands, I wash them much more often. When I do a cake, I am constantly washing icing off my hands and color. If I wore gloves, I'd probably just wear the gloves back and forth but the same junk gets on the gloves....only you can't really feel it to wash it off.

Bacteria is everywhere, including gloves I have no doubt.... as soon as the gloves touch a counter that's been coughed on or pushes a stray piece of hair back, its contaminated anyway. I think its just a matter of good general hygiene...and gloves should be worn when serving as a matter of principle.

Oh and as a side note, I shed just as much hair with a hairnet than without one. LOL. I ALWAYS wear my hair back every day (no reason not to, between kids and cakes) and no matter what I put on my head or what hair I put back, a piece of hair usually manages to make its way down to my workspace, maybe once a week. I always just pray I always catch it before it gets in anybody's food!

emmascakes Posted 9 Apr 2007 , 12:19pm
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I just don't think customers are that fussy that they'd need to see gloves and hairnets in order to trust buying something from someone. I would be far more picky about that kind of hygeine when buying meat or fish products but has anyone actually got food poisoning from a cake? Duff's popularity shows that people are happy with the 'normal' level of cleanliness that you'd expect in a kitchen.

SweetResults Posted 9 Apr 2007 , 12:30pm
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What about the episode when they made the gingerbread house for Duff's brother. They were eating the candy right out of the bowls that they wee using to decorate the cake.




Got to agree with mgdqueen on this one - making stuff for family is different. My kids were making an Easter cake Saturday and half the candy made it on the egg - the other half in their tummies! But I certainly would not let that happen if the cake was for a customer or a friend's party.

Mary Alice already addressed this issue for us in a past thread. They are very clean, wash hands, etc... It's TV folks - they only show us the interesting stuff!

karensjustdessert Posted 9 Apr 2007 , 12:34pm
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I actually bring hand sanitizer with me when I go to set up wedding cakes, because there is usually nowhere accessible for me to wash my hands. (And I bring baby wipes/wet naps with me because I'm always getting icing on me or something when I set up.)

Alligande Posted 9 Apr 2007 , 1:08pm
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A couple of things to consider, all retail food handling laws are either state or local, wholesale products such as meat and fish become federal regs and are much stricter. Duff is a retail bakery. In my state you can't use a home kitchen unless it is up to commercial standards (hand sinks 3 bay sink etc). Hair is required to be restrained which can mean anything lets it admit most chefs hat don't prevent hair loss (when you see hairnets on TV it is always in a factory enviroment). and recently the glove requirement has been removed (in food service latex was banned almost 10 years ago medical was later) because it did not do anything as many have pointed out. Washing hands is more effective than keeping the same set of gloves on. Obviously there is still applications for gloves such as if you have a cut or open sore on your hand.
So some of Duffs team might be pushing the hair envolope I have a feeling they are within the law. Now if you have seen any nail varnish that could be trouble.

MichelleM77 Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 3:39am
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I wash my hands so often, that by the time I'm done with an order, my skin hurts and I can't wait to go to bed and slather on the lotion. I'm very funny about hand washing. I have a hard time eating food anywhere but my own home. I can handle drive-thru's if we are out, as long as I don't see the people making the food. Sorry to offend any past or present fast food employees, but it's not always pleasant to see the person making and touching your food.

indydebi Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:18am
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Then you will hate this story.... I went thru the drive thru and the guy who handed me my food had fingernails longer than mine and they were black underneath!

I trashed it and went to another place for lunch. I'm never stopping there again! WHEre is the manager that he/she can't see that in one of the employees!????

moydear77 Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:29am
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I worked at Applebees for a while and it was required for the kitchen to wear glove. I think it is sorta gross. They had non latex gloves. Anyway it is just another reason not to wash your hands!

I have a friend who works at Coke. She told me I would be grossed out to see how dirty fountains can get if not cleaned.

lionladydi Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:46am
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I have a friend who works at Coke. She told me I would be grossed out to see how dirty fountains can get if not cleaned.




I owned a cafe for 13 years and yes the soda fountain heads get gross if not cleaned. My girls were required to clean them everyday with hot soapy water. I know of a bar that using a coke machine instead of the trigger sodas and I would be willing to bet my next year's SS checks that the heads on it have never been cleaned. thumbsdown.gif Now that you have me thinking about it I am going to ask one of the girls that works there if she has ever cleaned them. icon_lol.gif

Seeing food handlers with long hair hanging in their faces is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Diane

MichelleM77 Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:53am
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Well thanks guys. LOL! It will definitely help the diet if I quit going to the fast food joints. We try not to go unless we are out running errands and get hungry. Sometimes it's hard not to, especially with a 9-year-old boy who eats like a 29-year-old. Yikes.

lonestarstamper Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:54am
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On the subject of dirty money...I was a bank teller about 20 years ago and we had one "older" lady with huge ta-ta's that insisted on digging into her bra to pull out the money for her deposit. We also had an exotic dancer who brought in tons of cash and a little old man who had an alcohol problem and came in with terrible BO and we could tell he had at sometime wet himself. He was a really nice man and we felt sorry for him but after we had to keep making him new passbooks because his were in such a bad state, we started keeping his passbook in the vault for him. So money is absolutely the filthiest thing on earth and by all means if you see someone handling money and then your food, you should refuse to take it.

MichelleM77 Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:58am
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Bleh. Maybe we should go to just using cards. I hardly ever use cash anyway.

It's funny how years ago no one would think twice about any of this, though I'm glad we all do.

I went to my parents church on Easter Sunday and noticed a big bottle of hand sanitizer (big, like it was sitting on the floor and had a big pump dispenser) on the side of the altar. Right before they started communion, the pastor and assistants used the hand sanitizer and I thought that was the funniest thing to see. It made total sense, it was just hilarious to see.

indydebi Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:58am
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lonestar, our local Walmart has (some of) their cashiers wearing plastic gloves. I guess because they are handling our fresh produce and such ... I really don't know why. But it's pretty weird to me that they are wearing plastic gloves and use the same gloved hand to handle my leaking package of raw chicken, my fresh vegetables and take my cash.

now the purpose of those gloves is what again?

moydear77 Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 4:59am
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Oh yes money!! YUCK!

I was in line at the bank and I had a guy who had two voices and was talking to himslef. He also invaded my personal space!

I know someone who puts everything in her bra..cell phone...money!

lionladydi Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 5:06am
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lonestar, our local Walmart has (some of) their cashiers wearing plastic gloves. I guess because they are handling our fresh produce and such ... I really don't know why. But it's pretty weird to me that they are wearing plastic gloves and use the same gloved hand to handle my leaking package of raw chicken, my fresh vegetables and take my cash.

now the purpose of those gloves is what again?




You know, I never thought about the cashiers handling my produce and the money. From now on I will make sure all my produce is in plastic bags. I often just get a couple of apples or whatever and don't put them in a bag.

Actually, if we all knew everything that went on in these places we would always eat at home!

Diane

cocakedecorator Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 5:15am
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the glove thing to me is pointless. you see people in fast food joints or where ever wearing gloves and for whatever reason they figure their hands are clean that it doesn't matter what they touch with the gloves. I watched a girl in a fast food place push back her hair with gloves on her hand and then turn away from the cash register to sneeze, guess what she covered her mouth/nose with the gloved hand and then tried to serve me food with the same gloves on. I was furious! I told her shall I make a list of all things you have touched with those gloves including my food! All I had running thru my head was how many germs I would have been taking on hadn't I seen that. Of course she stood there looking at me like I had 3 heads. LOL

clsilvus Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 5:43am
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I have to wear gloves, all that hand washing really dries out my hands. However I wash my gloved hands the same I would wash my bare hands.

About ten years ago when I worked at a fish plant my hands got so dry and cracked they were bleeding. So painful. I never want that to happen again.

indydebi Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 5:51am
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In Dec and Jan, I had about 4 caterings that each lasted 3-4 days. I fed 100 college guys on-site 3 meals a day. It was an all day thing (as soon as we cleaned up after breakfast, we had to start dinner, etc). I've never washed my hands so much in my life as I did during those 3 day stints. Plus it was winter. My hands were really cracked.

I keep pure aloe gel around. Plenty of coats of that on my hands and the cracked, dry, almost bleeding skins was nice and normal in just 2 days.

It is better than most lotions I have ever used. It's a real healing tool.

vanillabean Posted 17 Apr 2007 , 2:14am
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Hmm, wondering if the Walmart ladies where wearing the gloves to protect themselves from germs - not the customers?

My sister's MIL used to work at a bank. She washed her hands all the time since she handled so much cash. One time she forgot to wash her hands and scratched her nose...........she ended up getting a staph infection!

OH! Here is something I DO NOT understand at all. Why is it not a law for customers at a buffet to have to wash their hands? How many times have you been in the buffet line and wondered how clean the customers' hands are? You have to touch the same tongs they just used. Ewwwwww!

indydebi Posted 17 Apr 2007 , 2:16am
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vanillabean, my daughter is a germ-o-phobe and refuses to eat at a buffet .... which is a little ironic because we are a buffet catering company! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

Good point about the walmart gloves ... protecting them from the germs. I hadn't thought of that!

sherryllane Posted 6 Apr 2013 , 2:14pm
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I work at a bakery/Italian That also has hot foods,deli and full bakery. I work as a clerk in the front of the store, handling bread, using bread slicer, back and forth to the deli, and hot foods pizza etc. then using cash register,we are required to wear hairnets, and gloves, It's a very fast paced place and if I wear the plain plastic gloves. they are loose, when we tie the bread sometimes the fingers of gloves get caught while were fastening the bread ties, so I try using the tighter poly gloves, which work well but you can't take them off and on for ever customer, so I keep them on and use our tissues with the gloves on, most of the bakery girls don't wear the gloves they just use tissues, I know this is a very long winded....sorry any body have any suggestions !!

Godot Posted 6 Apr 2013 , 2:31pm
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AEven though this thread is SIX years old it is always a good thing to think about and practice safe food hygiene.

liz at sugar Posted 6 Apr 2013 , 2:36pm
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Iowa must be the same as Indiana - gloved hands for all contact with ready to eat food (salad, sliced bread, buns, cookies).  You can touch the raw cookie dough before baking, but once baked, must use gloves or spatula/tissue.  We go through a lot of gloves.  Our restaurant employees change them very frequently, though, between tasks, which is good.

 

Liz
 

Norasmom Posted 6 Apr 2013 , 2:55pm
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No gloves or hairnet required here in MA.  I scrub my hands like a surgeon when I bake, but when I'm sculpting something I don't wear gloves.  I never see gloves on any of the tutorials on Cake Central, in fact, I've seen long, acrylic nails.  Nail polish and long nails are a no-no for me.  The bacteria under fingernails is something to consider, even with the most sanitary of bakers.  Starbucks will not allow employees to have long nails or nail polish.  I also will not wear my wedding and engagement rings while I work, which means I almost always walk out of the house a single lady...icon_biggrin.gif

thecakestandaz Posted 30 Aug 2013 , 4:50am
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I understand they might not have to have nets however, don't you think for the sake of hair in the food anyone would want them? I wear one since I don't want to risk losing a customer to that kind of error. Beside the fact that on that show they are always touching their beards (the guys) or faces then the fondant without gloves. We are constantly losing skins cells even in our hands so that bacteria is getting into the cake. Will it make you sick? Probably not however it just sounds gross. Would you rather buy a nice cake that has been touched so much or one where you know it is just as nice and they've used gloves?Besides, the cast of Ace of Cakes just appear rugged and unkempt. Even culinary chef/instructors teach to keep it clean.

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