scottelisa13 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 3:35am
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I saw some awesome big roses on cakes at bakeries and I was wondering what base tip I need to do those...does anyone know? To make regular sized roses I use base tip 12 and rose tip 104 and I have a big rose tip, tip 127 but I no big base tip. Also will I need to get a bigger flower nail? I don't even know if they make that stuff. So someone please, if you can shed a little light I'd be very appreciative, I'd really like to make some nice big roses for my birthday cake next week. Thanks

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TJB22 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 3:50am
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I would like to know the answer to that one also. icon_confused.gif

bonniesido Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:28am
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I'm sure there are many different ways to make the big roses. My way is I take a regular size"not the mini" marshmallow, put it on a stick, make my bud on top of the marshmallow, and then add the petals. Works fine for me, and the rose has a nice strong base. I have made some huge roses this way.

thecupcakemom Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:32am
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CLEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

mgdqueen Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:39am
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I had never thought of a marshmallow before! Thanks for the tip!

PaulaT Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:44am
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Hi- I just made some large roses on cupcakes as an experiment. I saw these done by someone here on CC last week. I was also using up some B/C icing that I had leftover. I just basically made the buds with a 10 or 12 tip then made the roses as I would normally do then kept adding petals right on the cupcake and kept flattening out the tip to lay the petal onto the surface like a fully open rose. Hope that makes sense. It was pretty easy.

leily Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:43pm
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I use to work with someone who used a margarine/butter lid (about 3"-4" in diameter) and "glued it to her nail with a dot of buttercream. Just made her nail bigger. Then made her rose and pulled it off the "nail" with sissors and placed on cake.

I like the idea with the marshmallow =)

LaSombra Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:51pm
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That's a great idea with a marshmallowicon_smile.gif

I did the big rose on top of the 3 tier cake in my pics a couple weeks ago...trying to remember what tips I used but I turned my 4 inch cake pan upside down and used that instead of a flower nail. It was harder to turn because I didn't have the "handle" but it worked ok. For the base, it was a star tip...one of the bigger ones that fit in the large coupler. I can't remember which one though icon_redface.gif

prterrell Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 5:53pm
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There is a larger flower nail. As for the "base" most bakery decorators don't have time to switch back and forth between two tips. When I worked at a bakery, we used the rose tip itself to form the base. Just hold it perpedicular to the top of the flower nail and squeeze and slowly move the tip away from the nail. It will form a nice fat base.

Erika1276 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:14pm

The big roses sound great, but I am having enough trouble just making a normal size one. I don't know if it is my technique or the consistency, but they are awful. I think a lot of the problem is my base and I was wondering if anyone has used a mini marshamallow for a regular size rose? I should probably keep practicing but I get so frustrated!

awolf24 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 6:17pm

Erika1276 - I like to use Hershey Kisses as "pre-made" bases. They work great and then I don't have to make up a whole bag for bases. Just use a little icing to "glue" it to your nail.

I'll have to try some of the ideas for the large roses. Love the marshmallow idea!

camcat Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:15pm

I was just flipping through the Wilton Cupcake Fun book and they have a cupcake with a single large rose. They used 2A for the base and 126 for the rose.

I can't wait to try the marshmallow idea! I was brainstorming for an idea for the flower nail.....you know those spindle thingies at cash registers where the cashier jabs the receipt? I think that might work. Unfortunately, I don't have one just laying around the house!! icon_smile.gif

TJB22 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:30pm

Wow! All these great ideas, I am going to have to try them out. I thought I had seen a bigger flower nail but can't remember if I really did and what store it was. At the time I was on the hunt for something else. detective.gif

MeloMiMi Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 9:56pm

Thanks for the marshmallow tip! I love them and wasn't aware that they were used as a base for roses.

lionladydi Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by camcat

I was just flipping through the Wilton Cupcake Fun book and they have a cupcake with a single large rose. They used 2A for the base and 126 for the rose.

I can't wait to try the marshmallow idea! I was brainstorming for an idea for the flower nail.....you know those spindle thingies at cash registers where the cashier jabs the receipt? I think that might work. Unfortunately, I don't have one just laying around the house!! icon_smile.gif




I think those spindle thingies which we called a ticket nail when I owned a cafe are a thing of the past. Too dangerous according to OSHA or someone! That's what I've been told. I have the old one that came out of my cafe years ago and display it as an antique. icon_lol.gif

Diane

lubbyanne Posted 3 Jul 2013 , 5:36am

Hi i just finished watching a huge rose on the top of a cake, no nail it was beautiful,   It was a tutorial on my cake school. didnt look to hard i am new  so if i think i can do it .....good luck you will love this .  good luck pat  lubbyann my son gave me this crazy name, when signing me on the computer

lubbyanne Posted 21 Jul 2013 , 6:56am

Hi they have a bigger rose nail than a 104 for the larger rose  pat
 

JWinslow Posted 21 Jul 2013 , 7:23am

I still can't make consistent roses but I found this - don't know if it's large enough: 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Ateco-Flower-Nail-Extra-Large-Diameter/dp/B0000VLESQ

lubbyanne Posted 29 Jul 2013 , 5:15am

Hi look on my cake school they show how to use things to make a bigger rose
 

lubbyanne Posted 29 Jul 2013 , 5:55am

you can just cut out the bottom of a styrofoam bowl  put frosting on a  nail maybe that would work

patriciareed Posted 17 Nov 2014 , 2:23am

for a larger nail i use a candy  temperature gauge   it works great for med lg roses

Pastrybaglady Posted 17 Nov 2014 , 5:13am

Now I want to try the marshmallow and the Hershey kiss - both are genius!

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