cakesondemand Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:09am
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I made a wedding cake for a bride, she brought me a picture and asked me to create the cake for her I didn't want to do it the same so we made some changes, it resembled the picture but was still different other then the shape. The picture was one of my competitors and she was upset when she say it on my site. What I'm asking is should I be removing this picture off my site. Any advice would be appreciated. Is there anything out there that says I can't have it posted or is is just unprofessional of me to not take it off.

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Doug Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:12am
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don't take it down...

tho' it would be apropos since not totally original to say "inspired by...."

we all imitate -- heck, Wilton even gets us to pay them to buy the yearbook so we can!

and she should be flattered!

cakes21 Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:15am
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Heck no don't take it down. You modified it, and we all copy and or take ideas from the Wilton yearbook.

melysa Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:17am
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Originally Posted by Doug

don't take it down...

tho' it would be apropos since not totally original to say "inspired by...."

we all imitate -- heck, Wilton even gets us to pay them to buy the yearbook so we can!

and she should be flattered!




i agree with that, it is your cake, but inspired by so and so...just give them a bit of credit next to your photo.

Jessica176 Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:18am
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I agree with Doug. Don't take it down! If you had used her original picture, then yes, but if you made the cake yourself then leave it! Its your work. Even if you hadn't changed anything on it, you still made it yourself and its your photo.

Saying inspired by... is also a good idea. Or if you just name the pictures, maybe you could name it after your competitor?

paolacaracas Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:19am
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I can copy a cake from a magazine, from someone who docent live in my city, but when it comes to a competitor, I just don't do it. I you choose to do it, at least don't put it in your web site, as if you are appropriating her cake and intend to do it again.
I don't think is professional. That is just my opinion.

nglez09 Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:22am
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I don't think there's anything wrong with it or furthermore unprofessional. It's a cake you made similar to a design that a competitor of yours made. Ask yourself why the bride didn't choose the original creator to make the cake. You are the one who created it and it shows off your abilities, regardless of who came up with the idea. JMHO.

melysa Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:23am
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Originally Posted by paolacaracas

I can copy a cake from a magazine, from someone who docent live in my city, but when it comes to a competitor, I just don't do it. I you choose to do it, at least don't put it in your web site, as if you are appropriating her cake and intend to do it again.
I don't think is professional. That is just my opinion.




good point. perhaps in the future, you could ask permission first to duplicate the original design with a few personal changes as long as you note credit to that person when you post your photos ....?.....

lapazlady Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:25am
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You did not "copy" the cake, nor did you post her picture on your site. The cake is yours. Post it proudly.

JILBRY Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:28am

she should be flattered you would want to copy her work, or something close to it. Post it proudly!!

Wendoger Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:30am

I agree with lapazlady.

cakesondemand Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:39am

here's my picture
go to ... in her wedding gallery
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Sugarbean Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:42am

After looking at both, I'd leave it...You changed quite abit...

Doug Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:47am

ditto to sugarbean's comment.

oh, and maybe be sure she reads your signature you use on CC

Wendoger Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:50am

...absolutley leave it....she's an idiot for saying what she did....my gosh, ya know how many times I've borrowed ideas?!?!?! Sheesh! I'd be happy if someone borrowed one of mine!
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Jenn123 Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:50am

She's mad 'cause yours is better!! I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't mind if people copy me. I know they do it. I would just be angry if someone stole a preliminary sketch or used my actual photo. We ALL build on the things that we have learned from others, seen in magazines, TV, internet, etc. I don't call that stealing.

antonia74 Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:57am

I'd do a little credit or remove it entirely. I agree with Paolacaracas' comments.

They are really similar, down to the type of beaded ribbon used...and you knew where it was from before you took the order, otherwise you might not have decided to "alter" it any, right? icon_rolleyes.gif

Really, how much business can it really garner as opposed to the bashing you'll get from your competitor if you choose to leave it on your site?

cakesondemand Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 4:05am

[quote="antonia74"] I agree with Paolacaracas' comments.
Really, how much business can it really garner as opposed to the bashing you'll get from your competitor if you choose to leave it on your site?[/quote


Thats my thought we are not on good terms already not my view but nothing I can do about it.
THANKS to everyone here on CC and your help I will keep it off my site for now and let things calm down she is my competitor and I don't need any bashing done. We are both in the same town and need to somehow work together.

lapazlady Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 4:12am

Nearly every cake is a rendition of someone elses. We buy flowers made commercially, ribbon, pearls and all sorts of other products to make the cake similar to the one we want to emulate. This does not make the cake the manufacturer's or the other baker's cake. Cakes are not exact copies, even if you can say, gee that looks like mine, and it might, it still belongs to the person that made that particular cake. You never hear Collette Peters, Scott Clark Woolley, or any other well-known cake artist saying, you copied my cake. The only way some one can say "it's my cake", is to copyright the design.

cakesondemand Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 4:38am

Thanks to everyone for not giving negitive feedback I respect the other person involved and in no way want to hurt her opinions.

melysa Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 4:47am
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Originally Posted by Wendoger

...absolutley leave it....she's an idiot for saying what she did....




be nice...what if she is a cc member too? icon_wink.gif

melysa Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 4:48am
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Originally Posted by Jenn123

She's mad 'cause yours is better!!





be nice icon_wink.gif

Janette Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 4:50am

Cakes,

I am really sorry you are put in this postion. You did do the cake so you should have your pic on your site.

How do you know she didn't copy it from a book or magizine herself?

Why is she looking at your site?

jackmo Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 5:01am
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Originally Posted by cakesondemand

here's my picture
go to www.justinessugarlane.com in her wedding gallery





This cake is decorated differently from hers. The shoe is different, you have a blue band around yours, hers don't. Plus hers got silver scrolls, whereas yours is plain. you may have used the hex and square like hers , but still it is a difference.

cakesondemand Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 5:19am

(Thanks Melysa!! I missed those) no need to say anything bad about anyone. She has her opinions I need to respect that. Think all has been answered and we can close this now before it gets out of hand. Thanks

Jenn123 Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 12:26pm

Just joking but didn't add smiley. Sorry!

springlakecake Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 1:02pm

To be honest, does she really think she is the only one who has put a shoe on top of a cake? It isnt like she invented the idea. Though the cakes look similar, I dont think it is necessary to remove it from your site unless You feel that it will create negativity between you two that isnt worth it.

leepat Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 2:51pm

I agree you changed that cake quite a bit. Your no copy cat.

Wendoger Posted 20 Mar 2007 , 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by melysa

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Originally Posted by Wendoger

...absolutley leave it....she's an idiot for saying what she did....



be nice...what if she is a cc member too? icon_wink.gif





I was being nice.

sugarlane Posted 28 Mar 2007 , 3:50am
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Originally Posted by cakesondemand

here's my picture
go to www.justinessugarlane.com in her wedding gallery



What the heck is she worried about!If someone posted my web site then I'd consider that a compliment!!A lot of people look at all of the comments that are made and will definitely go to check out her site.That means more business directed her way.Everyone has at one time or another taken an idea from someone else and changed it just enough so as to not copy it directly.Even if it's from one of your competitors,it's called business competition,we all do it in one form or another.If the customer has requested you to do this cake are you supposed to say "No, I can't do that cake because my competitor did it first, so maybe you should get her to do it."Not very business smart I'd say. Go ahead and post that picture!!!! You made it and it's totally different than hers.

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