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hollyscakes
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Location: texas
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:05 pm |
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everytime i make a multiple layer cake i get these bulging air bubbles! its only on the cakes that have layers. i crumb coat refridgerate and then frost and decorate. when i'm almost finished i'll see a huge bulge on the side or even coming directly up from the top! what is going on! please please help! i have 3 more of these to do and i don't want to mess them up! :/ |
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dandelion56602
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:22 pm |
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How long do you let your cakes settle between crumbcoating & icing? That could be one possibility. Another could be condensation is happening between the cake & icing. Someone else may have another suggestion |
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hollyscakes
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:38 pm |
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well i don't know what you mean by settle but i usually fill, crumb coat then refridgerate overnight before i decorate. do they need to come to room temp before i decorate? |
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karensue
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:02 am |
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I always get air bubbles if I try and ice a cake that is not completely at room temp .. or if the cake has too much surface moisture. I think if you refrigerate, you have to refrigerate through the whole process and keep refrigerated until delivery. Once that cake comes to room temp, I'd bet there would be air bubbles. |
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sugarshack
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:29 pm |
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helsbels
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:38 pm |
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Unless you are using a filling that requires refrigeration I would not refrigerate it just loosely cover it and let it sit. If you feel like you need to put it in the fridge let it come to room temp before icing it. That is what works for me. Good luck! |
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dkelly
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:13 pm |
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totally agree about the refrigeration thing |
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sugarshack
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:43 pm |
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dandelion56602
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Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:11 pm |
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One thing you might consider is put a cookie sheet on top of the cake & a can or something as a weight I personally will let my layers air "dry" for about 30 min then pipe them dam, put a piece of wax paper on that dam with a flat pan on top of that & gently press down. then I fill it, put the next layer on top of that, put the wax paper, pan & press down on that layer. Then I crumb coat & let settle over night or for a few hours at least. |
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K8memphis-
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I've worked in over half dozen commercial bakeries. I've had tons of completely room temperature and never chilled dry surfaced cakes get bubbles so those conditions might produce more bubbles for some of us but we still got 'em on never chilled dry surfaced cakes.
I know these facts seem to disturb some of us but that doesn't make them irrelevant.
What we did to ensure this did not happen to our cakes was make sure there was a hole in each layer of each tier all the way through the icing to the cake--we used a hat pin after decorating -- put it within the decor as best as possible or put them in the back.--made sure the holes stayed open--worked 99% of the time for us.
The places I worked in did not add the step and take the time to burp their cakes like some of us can.
Another cake bubble thought for you. |
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indydebi
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Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:39 am |
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I"m confused ... are you getting bulges at the sides where the filling is or are you getting air bubbles in the icing on random places all over the cake? These are two different problems.
I also dont' refrigerate my cakes. |
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cakebaker1957
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Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:55 am |
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| hollyscakes wrote: | | everytime i make a multiple layer cake i get these bulging air bubbles! its only on the cakes that have layers. i crumb coat refridgerate and then frost and decorate. when i'm almost finished i'll see a huge bulge on the side or even coming directly up from the top! what is going on! please please help! i have 3 more of these to do and i don't want to mess them up! :/ |
Are you talking about fondant or BC icing? |
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vagostino
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Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:12 am |
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This happens to me too!!! ALL THE TIME! I get random bulges that if i don;t pop them and keep a hole open till delivery the bubble just keeps growing!! Where the heck is the air coming from?
I'm so discouraged that now I just keep random little decorations made so i can cover the hole that I know I'll be making 
I must say that I refrigerate the frosted cake, and then inmediately after I take it out of the fridge i cover it with fondant. After the cake is covered with fondant stays at room temperature. Is that my problem? |
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K8memphis-
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Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:35 am |
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| vagostino wrote: | This happens to me too!!! ALL THE TIME! I get random bulges that if i don;t pop them and keep a hole open till delivery the bubble just keeps growing!! Where the heck is the air coming from?
I'm so discouraged that now I just keep random little decorations made so i can cover the hole that I know I'll be making
I must say that I refrigerate the frosted cake, and then inmediately after I take it out of the fridge i cover it with fondant. After the cake is covered with fondant stays at room temperature. Is that my problem? |
Some people say yes it's the refrigeration.
Some people say it happens to cake that has never been in the frige.
I think from that we can perhaps conclude that it happens more for some poeple when they are chilled. |
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indydebi
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Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:37 am |
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| K8memphis- wrote: | | I think from that we can perhaps conclude that it happens more for some poeple when they are chilled. |
Based on my experience, I would go with this statement. |
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