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SweetAsLemmons
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:58 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I have always thought of opening a cake shop in which I do fondant cakes only. I am just looking for feedback.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:09 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

It wouldn't work for me. There aren't many people who want fondant on an every day basis. It's great for wedding cakes, but it's just not that popular here. Besides, while I like playing with fondant, I'm a butter cream decorator at heart!

It just depends on what the market demand is in your area.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:13 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I will tell you that is what I started out doing now I do more buttercream cakes than fondant. I use a good crusting butter cream and smooth with a VIVA paper towel after they have crusted for at least 30 minutes. I am going to add a little Meringe powder to my next batch to see if I can get a good crust faster... I am actually starting to like using butter cream...

So I guess the drawback is in my area people just don't want fondant cakes... though the ones that I gave fondant to were surprised it actually tasted good, they had only eaten Wilton crap.

My advise is to try it and be open to venture into butter cream if needed...

Good Luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:19 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

The majority of the people that go to our shop dont like fondant. There is another place in town, and even though she makes gorgeous cakes, people dont always want to get an only covered fondant cake. One for flavor, another one is the expense.

Edna
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:22 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't even mess with fondant at all. My customers don't seem to want it anyway or pay the extra price. Personally, I think it's gross....even the MMF is way too sweet. I have tried that on a small cake just for an experiment. I know the cakes are so smooth etc., but I won't let any of my cakes get a bad reputation because of the fondant. Just my opinion, it's buttercream or Rich's whipped frosting for me. Dana
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:42 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I think Duff is all fondant.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:56 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Just stress to all your customers that there is yummy buttercream underneath. Even offer to give them some extra buttercream to spread on the cake after they peel the fondant off. I do 99% fondant and my customers don't have a problem with ot once I explain that fondant allows me to be so much more creative with my cakes and they are sturdier in travelling. I also tell them that it's like the wrapping on a gift. You can take it off and the good stuff is underneath Smile

I also tell them that they really don't have a choice. I stink at buttercream decorations and I can't create the things I do without using fondant. I have never had a customer not order just because I use fondant.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:22 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

k8memphis wrote:
I think Duff is all fondant.


The only cake I have seen in tv that was buttercream made byt them, look like a storm went thorugh it...Not very well done.

Edna
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:34 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

i understand the drama with the fondant that people don't like it heck i don't even eat either but like krissy_kze said you work better with it, and travels better... her advise is great just tell them that. i think they look way better because some people just do really crappy jobs with the buttercream and i think it looks awful but then again there is people that do a buttercream job that looks like fondant its all in your skill so just do what you do best!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:38 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

In my area (NYC metro) fondant is pretty much the standard for high-end cakes. Some shops will do buttercream if requested, but generally most work in fondant as the rule, buttercream as the exception. My partner and I essentially work only in fondant, land we do plan on opening a shop in the relatively near future.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:08 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

tonedna wrote:
k8memphis wrote:
I think Duff is all fondant.


The only cake I have seen in tv that was buttercream made byt them, look like a storm went thorugh it...Not very well done.

Edna


making a smooth buttercream cake is a whole other skill...that norman dude had to make a layer of his cake on one of the challenges buttercream, he didn't bring enough fondant....it looked awful too.

i like buttercream with fondant decorations...

edna, i was just curious what the price difference is between all fondant, and buttercream with fondant accents is, at your shop?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:05 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

It really is a whole nuther skill to do a smooth buttercream cake. I call them bare naked cakies. I do cakes intermittently these days and whatever I knew about getting a cake real real smooth evaporates out of my head in between cakes. I mean like a faux fondant cake--no edges--all smoothie pretty. I can do all smooth with an edge.

You gotta have a great harmony between your buttercream recipe and your technique.

I am waiting breathlessly for the Jenna Bush cake method to be all the rage --texture texture texture, random cakey spatula texture. Yes?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:53 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh if you want to discourage butter cream cakes charge MORE for them, when asked explain the extra time/ skill required to make them flawless. I bet they will be fine with the fondant...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:11 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I just did a BC cake this morning and I hated every second of it!! I frosted in BC and planned to do Ernie and Bert in BC as well. Started it and hated it - refrosted the top, then did Ernie and Bert in fondant instead.

I am seriously thinking that I will not offer BC only cakes anymore - I just don't like working with it as much. I can only do so many cakes and I'd rather spend the time doing ones I really like doing.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:13 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I love fondant & I now make JenniferMI's chocolate fondant, it is fabulous & I can roll it to less than 1/8" so it is really thin, I put a normal layer of BC under the fondant. It is wonderful. I offer both, all my decorations are sugar paste/gum paste or fondant.
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