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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:30 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

With a cupcake wedding it would seem to me that because cupcakes are more munchable, and you can help yourself to them rather than waiting to for them to be like a cake, that maybe you should make more than the number of guests at the reception. So I know that not everyone will eat dessert but some people will definitely have more than one cupcake, particularly if there are multiple flavor combinations.

I'd like to know if you just do the one per person on a cupcake wedding or does it stand to reason that you should make extra for those who will sneak extra ones? What are your thoughts???

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:48 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I've only done cupcakes for birthday parties, but I always tell cutomers that the cupcakes go fast, because kids tend to eat more than one. Even some adults. So I kinda leave it to my customers to decide if they want to order more.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:50 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

My recommendation to people planning parties is always to plan for about 120% the number of servings if you have more than one flavor, becasue there are always people who will want "one of each" . If it's all one flavor, you can most likely get just one for each guest, but for multiple flavors, always over order.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:57 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

And cupcakes make it easier for folks to take one home "for later", too, which can explain why you might need more if serving cupcakes. But I let the bride/client decide how many they want. I can talk to 'em about wedding cakes, but cupcakes are a "How many do you want?" thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:18 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

good points guys! i will bring it up again with them and get a final decision.
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I suggest to brides that they use either a Texas Sized or mini cupcakes for cupcake weddings... The reason: regular cupcakes are not the same sized portion as a WEDDING cake slice (a regular sized cupcake will just about match a flat aluminum pan sheet cake slice by the time shrinkage is figured in, and there still is the lack of filling factor), and people consider them to be "munchies" more than a full dessert. I also think they cheapen the look of the wedding even if it is a backyard BBQ... And, a well decorated cupcake is going to end up costing the same as a larger wedding cake..

Here's why I suggest the mini cupcakes... The display looks fuller, guests each get 4 different flavors on their plate for the same price as one regular cupcake, it's unique, etc.

I'm NOT a fan of cupcake weddings by any means, but if that's what the bride wants, that's what she gets, she just doesn't get a discount on the cost/serving because of increasing the amount of dinker time I've got to spend with the thing or the setup...
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I suggest to brides that they use either a Texas Sized or mini cupcakes for cupcake weddings... The reason: regular cupcakes are not the same sized portion as a WEDDING cake slice (a regular sized cupcake will just about match a flat aluminum pan sheet cake slice by the time shrinkage is figured in, and there still is the lack of filling factor), and people consider them to be "munchies" more than a full dessert. I also think they cheapen the look of the wedding even if it is a backyard BBQ... And, a well decorated cupcake is going to end up costing the same as a larger wedding cake..

Here's why I suggest the mini cupcakes... The display looks fuller, guests each get 4 different flavors on their plate for the same price as one regular cupcake, it's unique, etc.

I'm NOT a fan of cupcake weddings by any means, but if that's what the bride wants, that's what she gets, she just doesn't get a discount on the cost/serving because of increasing the amount of dinker time I've got to spend with the thing or the setup...
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:37 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Really? I go by the amount of batter I use in a standard cupcake vs. a slice of wedding cake, and they're pretty much the same size. And all my cupcakes are filled. I tell brides that a cupcake IS the same as a slice of wedding cake and that's why they are priced the same. And some people take two slices of wedding cake to get a taste of the different flavors, also, so that theory is no different for cake or cupcakes.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:56 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

CoutureCake, yes, you make good points, however i do beg to differ with you that cupcakes 'cheapen the look of the wedding, even if it's a backyard bbq'. cupcakes/cupcake weddings, is probably the biggest, hottest trend in desserts nationwide right now. there are cupcake bakeries popping up all over the u.s. and i think there is a huge market with cupcakes. i like to make them and there is a much more sophisticated way of displaying them than your average 2-year old bday party. i had 3 tastings this week which led to 3 bookings - all cupcake weddings. the larger of the 3 is well over $600. as i said, i do think you make good points but i do disagree with your thoughts about them looking cheap.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:54 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm happy to disagree with a bride's choice... all the way to the bank Laughing Laughing ... I'll do whatever it is they want, as long as there's my favorite shade of green.

Trend or no trend, they look cheap in the times I've seen them live. VERY few times have I seen them done nicely (usually only in pictures where the ones that tipped over in transit are in the back). In one wedding, the bride only ordered enough for about 80% of her guests and they were the centerpieces at each table, yea, try explaining to guests who isn't worthy enough to get a cupcake? In other instances they've been icing slapped or big box sprinkle cupcakes...

As for the batter vs. cake serving debate... I used to think they came out the same, after all, it's a quarter-cup of batter used... The consideration is that a full cake has more room to rise that 1/4 cup than a cupcake does because of the crust area. A slice of wedding cake never comes out to only 1 1/2" tall tops which is the factor with a cupcake, then the filling is not equal to the amount of filling between at minimum 1/2"-1" total. The labor is increased with the cupcake as well.. Finally, a 2" round cake that's 1 1/2" tall is not going to fill the same sized area as a 1x2x4" space...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:18 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm with Couture on this one. My personal opinion is that cupcakes are tacky. (Just my PERSONAL opinion!) As a guest, I buy a new dress, get all dolled up (which takes much longer these days!), actually wear makeup, to attend a formal function ..... and I'm them expected to shove some gooey covered cupcake into my face with my hands????

If it's an outdoor wedding with a very casual theme where all the guests are wearing jeans, I'm ok with it. Maybe it's the traditionalist in me, but I am also of the opinion that they look cheap, especially in a very formal setting.

If a bride wants them, she's paying more to me than she would for a regular wedding cake because they are a bigger serving and more work. So even tho' I'd issue a larger invoice to her for cupcakes, I'd subtley try (yes, it's hard to believe but I can be sublte! Rolling Eyes ) to sway her to a regular cake.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:03 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

just look through that and tell me if cupcakes at weddings seem cheap.

http://flickr.com/photos/7366896@N04/2038353065
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:05 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

http://flickr.com/photos/7366896@N04/2038353065

After looking through that, can you still say cupcake weddings are cheap?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:28 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes, I can still say they "look" cheap and tacky.

Again this is my PERSONAL opinion .... my PERSONAL taste.

There are people who think some of the most expensive cars on the road are ugly. I've been inside super expensive homes that I didn't like and wouldn't live in. It's all about personal taste and preference.

I've read lots of threads on the different opinions on topsy turvy cakes, on fountain cakes, on sheet cakes. This is just another category. (omg, you'd think someone would get executed on here for making a fountain cake, based on the opinions in THOSE threads! Laughing Laughing )

A cupcake can cost $10 apiece, but TO ME ... it's still a cupcake, and MY PERSONAL TASTE is they are inappropriate for a formal wedding setting.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:31 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

here's one of my favorites...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/y.....313836827/
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