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TheCakerator
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:20 pm |
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Ok so I am planning on a fbct sometime this week. I have never done one of these before, but I do understand the concept of doing it .. I think .. anyways, the colors that are going to be used will be lots of red and some yellows .. I was just wondering how early I can put it on my cake, frosted in buttercream dream icing off this site, and be sure that it won't bleed off? I want the main part of the cake to be white, and just the colors to be on the fbct .. I hope Im explaining this right ... any help would be great, thanks! |
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JodieF
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:37 pm |
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When I have done FBCT I ice the back with a thin layer of white once my image is frozen, then I put it back in the freezer. Once the whole thing is frozen I put it on the cake. I also put a small border of white to fill in the gap at the edge. That way the colors don't touch the white cake. |
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msthang1224
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:31 pm |
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I do them all the time and I have never had a problem with the colors bleeding onto the cake. But, then again, I use royal icing to outline & fill-in my fbct and they come out great all the time. I have some pics in my photos. Take heed when looking that I have yet to master the smoothing technique  oh, just make sure that your pic is completely frozen before applying to your cake.
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andpotts
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:59 pm |
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Great tip about using royal to outline msthang, thanks! |
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mjballinger
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Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:25 pm |
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The last cake I did, the fbct were too big (oops!), so I made "backings" for them out of gum paste, let them set, attached them to the cake and then put the fbct on. It worked out pretty well, especially since it was my first time trying the fbct!
Good Luck! |
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msthang1224
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:29 am |
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Yr welcom andypotts! I forgot to mention that I thin out the royal icing (not runny) for my fill in and it stays put for good.
Happy Decorating |
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TheCakerator
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:56 am |
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if you are using thinned royal icing for your fbct, isn't that the same as a colorflow? Just asking ... |
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TexasSugar
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:08 am |
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| TheCakerator wrote: | | if you are using thinned royal icing for your fbct, isn't that the same as a colorflow? Just asking ... |
That's what I am thinking. If you used the royal icing it would be like the color flow or run in techinque. The FBCT stands for Frozen Butter Cream Transfer.
I've done these many of times with black outlines and haven't had a problem with bleeding. After I put the FBCT on a cake and let it thaw and crust I will lay a paper towel (viva) over and and rub my hand over it. This helps smooth out any wormy piping lines. When I pull the paper towel away they is usually a faint version of the design on it. I think it helps pick up the color off the top. |
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Jenni2383
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:19 am |
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I use a small paint brush to smooth out the wormy llines on my fbct after it is thawed, sometimes I have to re-outline my design if the black comes of during the transfer. |
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TexasSugar
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:30 am |
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With the last two I have been doubling up my outline on the outside of the image. For most of them I outline in a 2, so I have been going back over it to thicken it up to the height of my fill in. This also helps when you put it on the cake, because all you see on the sides is black and not the other colors and you don't have to border it. |
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msthang1224
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:55 pm |
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I'm sorry but I've never done colorflow and if thinning RI is just like colorflow, then I guess that's what i've been doing and just had no idea I was, LOL. I'll have to check out the techniques for colorflow and see. |
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tracey1970
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:43 pm |
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msthang - yes, thinning out RI is basically color flow. You don't need to freeze that as it will dry hard on its own.
I wanted to put this out there and see if I am off my rocker or not. I've never done a FBCT, but I am sure that I read somewhere about someone who not only did the FBCT but also filled in around it to whatever size/shape the cake top was going to be, and then froze it.
Here's what I mean. Let's say you wanted to do a Mickey Mouse face on an 8" round cake. You would take your pic of Mickey and around that, wherever you wanted his face to be on the cake top, you would draw the outline of the 8" pan circle. You would place waxed/parchment paper over the design of Mickey and fill that in with the required colours to make his face. Then, around that you would use white icing (or whatever colour of icing you wanted to put on the whole top of the cake as your background icing) to fill in the remainder of the 8" circle. Pop it in the freezer.
So, in essence, you are making a FBCT of your entire cake top. On the day you decorate your cake, you just ice and smooth the sides. Take the FBCT out of the freezer, lay it on the cake, touch up where it meets the sides (which you will cover with a border anyway), and voila! That way, your actual FBCT and cake top are one unit - no worries about getting Mickey's face to sit nicely into the icing on the top of the cake or about putting edging around the transfer to give it a smooth finish. It's already flush with the cake top because of how you made it. Plus, perhaps the whole top freezing together might help with bleeding as it thaws??
Does this make sense? Has anyone tried this? Would it work? |
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andpotts
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Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:52 pm |
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I was just thinking the RI was a good idea for the outlining of the FBCT and then fill with BC and continue as normal. I don't know seems like you could get finer detail lines that way, but that's just in my imagination so far, nothing to back it up |
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TheCakerator
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:38 am |
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thanks for all the replies you guys ... I have to do my first one this week for thursday night ... when would the best time to make this fbct be? |
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msthang1224
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:03 am |
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Tracey, I have heard that people have done it and it does work out fine from what i've heard. And thinks for letting me know that I have been done colorflow all this time, DUH on ME...LOL
Cakerator: You can make your fbct as early as you want, at least I do. I had a Optimus Prime Transformer not due til last friday and I did the fbct on Monday night because I knew that i wouldn't have time during that week and everything was fine with it. Go fo it!!!
Happy Decorating |
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