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abed
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:31 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

How do CC members price the cost of a cake? How do you take into account your supplies like eggs, butter, etc and calculate? Help!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:41 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I price by serving. I know others do too but everytime I've done it that way I always end up making some profit. But I guess you could just do the math of how much 3 eggs would cost, but that would drive me insane XD. hope that makes some sense Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:52 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey abed, I made a Home and Hobby matrix I will attached below. Good luck! PS- you will need to have Excel 97 or higher.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:58 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

It's really not that hard to X3 your ingredients.
If you buy a dz eggs for $1.32 (the present price in my area) you divide that by 12 then X how many eggs you use per recipe. That would be 11 cents per egg; 2 per box mix = 22 cents for eggs.
A 5# bag of sugar will tell you 'approx' how many 1/2 cup servings per bag (or some similar info) - let's say 20 half-cups and you pd $2.39 for the bag - that would make each cup of sugar cost 24 cents. Don't forget to add in the cost of your board, the covering for it (doily), the box, etc.
Then add up all those #. Let's just say it comes to $4.21; X that by 3.5 to pay you for the oven, electric etc used and some time for your talent:)
So in the case that cake should sell for $14.74. I would round that up to $15 just to be sure I didn't forget something in the formula. Also keep your prices even so you don't have to keep lots of change on hand.
How many of you will go to another store because they are selling something for $14.98 or even 14.69 and the one you are at is selling the exact same thing for $15??
I dare say not many of you:) Now you don't have to keep loose change on hand. Makes it soooo much easier.
With a cake you want to charge by the serving, if that amount comes out to something like $123.56 are you going to charge that? Wouldn't it be sooooooo much simpler to round it out....either up or down?
The good thing about working out the costs is you only have to do it once -- that is until your prices go up a great deal.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:08 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

kakeladi- a dozen eggs are only $1.32?!?! I'm so jealous, here it's around $5 Sad stinky California...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:13 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

WOW kakeladi, you go girl, I gbet you were a math wizard in school. I just have a set price per slice and I made my daughter do the math. Very Happy

And I agree....1.32 for eggs? Dang girl... ship me some at that price.

Patricia
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:15 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

loriana wrote:
Hey abed, I made a Home and Hobby matrix I will attached below. Good luck! PS- you will need to have Excel 97 or higher.


Thanks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:27 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm far from a professional baker, but I do sometimes charge to make special occasion cakes for friends/co-workers.

One of the big things I keep in mind if I'm not going to use all of a unit of an ingredient in the recipe is "am I going to use all of this elsewhere?".

For example...if I need 4 eggs for a recipe, I'm not going to hit them with the cost of a dozen eggs because I know I'll use the remainder. Same with flour, sugar, etc.

However, if I'm making something like a cheesecake, while it doesn't take a whole box of graham crackers for the crust, I'll charge them for the whole box. I don't buy graham crackers on a regular basis, and chances are, I have no use for the rest of the box.

Once I have the cost of ingredients, I add on what I want to make per hour times the number of hours it takes to make it (in my case, I charge $10 an hour for my time, which is very reasonable I think).

It adds up really fast, particularly as I do everything from scratch with best quality (or as much as is reasonable) ingredients.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:16 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

This is the pricing that I use. This gives you the cost of the cake. From there you need to decide if you also charge by the hour, add extra cost for decorations, etc. If you have any questions just PM me.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:29 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

loriana and mommyle,

Thanks so much for posting your spreadsheets. I have only made cakes for family and friends (just one paid cake so far) and have always wondered how much it actually costs me to make it (supply-wise). Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:54 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

thanky you so much for all your wonderful advice and the great spreadsheet. That really helped a lot!!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:23 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

yes, thank you for sharing your spreadsheets. That is exactly what I was looking for.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:44 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I do not like the "times 3" system. If I did the "times 3", then I'd be selling wedding cakes for $97 instead of $300. I'd be selling my drop cookies for $0.58/dozen instead of $6/dozen.

when figuring your costs, please remember that "costs" are more than just ingredients: time (payroll), utilities (cost to run your oven and refrigerator, mixer), insurance (if you're delivering cakes, you should have a commercial insurance policy or you are running the risk of actually driving with no insurance), cleaning supplies, etc etc etc.

"cost" is more than just flour and eggs.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:23 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

mommyle wrote:
This is the pricing that I use. This gives you the cost of the cake. From there you need to decide if you also charge by the hour, add extra cost for decorations, etc. If you have any questions just PM me.


Hi im trying to print your list and when i do its ittty bitty cant read it give me a quick lesson on editing this If you would
Thanks told you im not computer smart Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:16 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

kakeladi
maybe I missed something, but why do you multiply times 3.5? just wondering.
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