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BarbaraK
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:35 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

All the cakes I make are for family or close friends. I don't charge as I don't feel I am good enough to charge. I usually get them to provide the ingredients and I make the cake. I feel less stressed and enjoy baking more. The past few weeks have been busy with work and lots of baking, two Chinese New Year cakes, two birthday cakes and one more this week.

The other day a group of us mums were talking while waiting for school to let out and the subject got round to cake making and one of them asked me if I make cakes to sell and I said no, that I only make for family and close friends and I usually get them to provide the ingredients and I make the cake. So then she says her son's birthday is April 7th and asked for a list of ingredients and a date to drop them off to me!!!!! Shocked Shocked WHAT THE HECK????? I never said that I would do the cake. I know her because her son is in the same class as my daughter and she has heard that I make yummy cakes.

I gently told her that I could not do the cake and she mentioned that I did Elyse's birthday cake (the handbag cake in my photo). Now Elyse is my 8yo daughters very best friend and Kerryn (her mum) and I are very close. She bought me a beautiful bottle of perfume to thank me because I would not charge her for the cake. Anyway, I said that I was going to be very busy baking for my cookie bouquets and baskets for Easter. She then said 'HOW HARD IS IT TO BAKE AND DECORATE A CAKE ANYWAY?... Shocked Shocked

Up to this point, I was very polite and gentle in turning her down. When she said that, I very firmly told her no I would not be doing her son's cake. She got all huffy and said 'FINE BUT I BETTER BE GETTING A COOKIE BASKET AT EASTER BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING SO SELFISH BY NOT MAKING THE CAKE' Now when I see her at school, she will not say hello.

Why are people like this?? I try to be generous when I can and I believe that I am a good person. In my heart I know that I was not being selfish but what she said really upset me.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:45 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

OH MY GOSH!!!! That is unbelievable. I think you are in the right here, but I will try and see it from her point of view. Maybe she thinks of you as a good friend and was hurt that you weren't willing to make her sons cakes. But even if that is the case she is being totally juvenile. Don't make her anything. I can't make a nice cake that takes less than six hours. It is serious work. If she does bring it up again, tell her to come here for tips and pointers and let her try to make her own cake. LOL Then she will understand. WHen is it okay to demand a present from someone anyways?/? Mean ignorant people suck! LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:47 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

If she thinks it's so "easy" to decorate a cake then why isn't she doing it herself?

Please don't give her any cookies! Only a crazy person would expect to get cookies after that outrageous behaviour!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:51 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Hey, I'm going through sort of the same thing. I made my best friend a cake for her birthday and now she wants me to make all her cakes.....for free.

Her daughter is getting married and she told me she needs a cake for 200 plus people and asked me to do it. What!!!!!!!!!!!!! For free?????

Well no, she said she would buy the supplies and making the cake could be my "gift" to her daughter.

She said "I just don't want to get ripped off by some bakery that would charge me $400 for the cake". I quickly told her it was not going to be cheep to buy the supplies. I don't even have the pans to bake a wedding cake that is for over 200 people.

Today I told her that I may be baking cakes for someone on a regular bases pretty soon and that if I did I was going to charge $3.00 for a slice with bc and $4.00 for a slice with fondant.

She said "Wow! That's a lot of money per slice." I told her that where we live the bakeries would charge her min $5.00 per slice for bc and upwards of $8-10 per slice with fondant. I thought that would make her see the great deal she was getting from me.

Nope, she said "well if you are to busy to do the cake then don't worry about it. It's the least of my worries. Plus it is the least expensive thing I will have to buy.

What! Isn't the wedding cake one of the top things in a wedding? Doesn't it photographed more then anything else except the bride and groom?

Oh well, I've decided that no matter what I'm doing I'm not going to do the cake. She doesn't seem to think there is anything to it. She also said "It's no big deal to make a cake and throw some icing on it. How long could that possible take?" I felt like she was putting me and my work down. I know she just has no idea of what goes into making a cake and how stressful it is to do such a large cake.

But I've decided long ago that I will NEVER do a cake for someone who does not appreciate it. It's clear she doesn't. So no cake from me to her.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:52 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Shocked Shocked Shocked Well...... absoultely no cookie bouquet for her and I'd sure be real busy ANY time she has a aking request! Keep smiling but keep your distance!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:53 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

that's not being selfish. There are sometimes when you have to much on your plate and you have to say NO. It's a good word, one that many people and obviously her have not heard that much. Don't le ther make you feel bad. She will find her way to a grocery store and buy a cake. I asure you that this was not even a ripple in her life. Don't let it be one in yours. You know your heart, and in your heart you are good and do for others when you can. now is just not one of those times.

smile tomorrow is another bright day!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:59 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

She is totally out of her mind. She just doesn't realize what it takes to make a cake and have it look nice. I would be hurt also cause I am like you for friends and family (so far). Even family can be that way. My sister called last weekend for a cake. She had forgot to ask me to make one for her DD. I had to make 2 for friends and I babysit for 3 ADHD little girls plus my DD on the weekends. So I went ahead and got it done. my niece really need to know she was loved. She just turned 18 and her and BF broke up right before her B-Day party. I felt bad a caved in. Didn't get much sleep but she loved it. I am not saying do the cake. Don't get me wrong. I am just sharing my past experience with my family. If I would have been in your situation I would have said no as well. So don't feel bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:08 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Just a word of advise, from somone that just found it out the hard way, you average price per slice should look more like this: $3.50-per slice Buttercream, and no less than $5.00 a slice for fondant. It also matters what kind of cake you are giving them. Scratch or standard. Standard flavors like White, and chocolate are the lower end pricing. Scratch is the higher end. I am doing a scratch, specialty cake for the wedding I consigned in April, and I found out "through the decorators grapevine" that I have undercharged her by half!!! Stupid me for not checking around first. And she knew it, because she was so happy to go up much higher for the speciatly cake than she originally wanted. I chalked this one up to experience, and ignorance! Crying or Very sad

Be careful, too many people know you can do this that are close to you, and you end up doing it for free, just like it sounds your "friend" is expecting. I had that happen this week! Got asked to make a fancy bridal shower cake(It's posted on CC under my photos) that took my nearly a week to complete. And I didn't even get offered a dime! The lady that asked me decided that since my daughter was involved in the planning of the shower that I could just donate it........ Mad I was not expecting to have to do that, but I didn't say anything to her.

Some good came out of my being so charitable though, I have at least one cake in a week or for a birthday, and a possible wedding in July.....Woopie!!

Good luck you and sorry to hear that you were taken advantage of that way. Friends shouldn't do that to you just because you could offer that service.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:12 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Barbara you have no reason to feel mean… that is just down right rude! She sounds like a bully! Don’t take any notice of her and keep making your beautiful cakes! Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:21 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

First off she shound like a whiny brat. I don't care what you have to do I want...I want...ME ME ME. She obviously doesn't feel bad, and neither should you.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:35 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

OKAY! NOW I AM FURIOUS!!!!!! My daughter came home from school and asked me why I cannot make Matthew's (the son) cake. Matthew would not play with her in school because his mum told him that I was being mean because I would not make his cake. Mad Mad

I told her that mummy was not being mean and explained why I could not make the cake. She was very upset and this makes me very mad!!!

I feel like confronting the mum and telling her TO GROW UP!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:47 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Sounds to me like that's exactly what needs to happen! Good greif.....she has crossed the line at involving innocent children! She has to be put in her place so she knows she has gone over the edge, it's the only thing left! And then just leave her to stew in her own juices!

Your poor little daughter. How wrong of your "friend".....

I'm sorry to hear this has happened.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:52 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Maybe that is exactly what you should do. Some mums are so childish that I feel it is them that should be going to school instead.

Speak to the mom and tell her what her son said to your daughter and that it upsets you.

I would also be very very upset.
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Man she is so in the wrong. I feel for you. I would talk to the mom as well. But then again she could drag your DD back into it. It is so touchy because of your DD. Tell the mom to keep the issues between the two of you and not to involve the kiddos. Tell her if she can supply the ingredients and make the cake and the icing you could maybe instruct her how to ice it and then decorate it if she has an extra 6 to 10 hours of her time to do it. I am sorry I am being naughty. But that is what I feel. Maybe lay out the timeline for making a cake. And tell her it is much more than buying a mix or ingredients. You would be donating your time and your expertise. Yes you do it for fun and learning. But you are a busy MOM as well. If you don't want to talk to her break it down on paper. Baking the cake, and making the icing and so on. That is what I would do.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:59 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh this sort of thing really saddens me everytime I read about these totally selfish people who want cakes from you in this manner, I so agree that they have no idea what goes into making them, and I also feel that this "lady" probably has this sort of attitude when getting anything for herself and not just cake....it sickens me to think she involved the children Evil or Very Mad "how could she"...... I'm sorry I cant advise on how to handle this as (thankfully I've never come across such a rude and selfish person as this before) I'm sure I would be so angry at her for involving the children I would have to not deal with it straight away because I would probably be so upset and make the situation worse, and anger can never solve anything, I'm so sorry you are having to deal with sort of person.
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