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arsing1
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:16 am |
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gerripje
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:37 am |
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I've never done one of those, but I found today that making the spackle for under the fondant helps with making it more stable. That's buttercream and cake crumbs mixed together, then you've got a more substantial coating.
I can sympathize with you though, I am too chicken to try one, I have a heck of a time just with normal!! |
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arsing1
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:38 am |
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arsing1
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:41 am |
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Thanks for the fondant tip.
This cake has seriously destroyed my confidence. Why the heck did I think I was any good at this?! |
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lasidus1
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:51 am |
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oh gosh, i'm not a pro at topsy turvey cakes at all but let me see if i can help
first thing's first, if the lower tiers are bulging it may just be a support issue. are your dowels/supports the exact height of the cake w/ fondant? if not, pull them out and put some in of the exact height. the bulging sounds to me like it might just be the weight of the cake distributing without proper support.
as for the fondant did u make it or buy it? i know whenever i've made my mmf it sometimes is dry, only thing for it at that point is to add some shortening and knead knead knead. if your fondant feels like if u lift it it's just falling apart, there may be too much fat/shortening in it, in which case try kneading in some powdered sugar. if it's bought fondant i really don't know what to say, other than to suggest those methods.
what is underneath your fondant layer? did you put a coat of buttercream? spreading some piping gel lightly over it may help the fondant adhere better for you.
i'll be up a little while longer if i can help at all any more
edited: it's late now, i'm off to bed. please just step away, take a breath, maybe sleep on it. in the morning with a clear head you'll know what to do |
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JessDesserts
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:52 am |
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Hi Arsing,
I wish I had some great technical advice on how to fix the cake, but im more of a cupcake kinda gal.
As far as destroying your confidence, im sorry you're in a rut. But that all it is honey, just a bad place for the moment.
You can either trash the cake and start all over or try again with the same cake but a new attitude.
I bought a book with little clay animals and they never seem to come out the way they look in the book. It was so upsetting the first few times, until I realized they dont have to look exactly like the book. If I make a giraffe and people recognize its a giraffe, thats great.
Take a break. Have a good cry. Take a long walk. Eat something filled with sugar and very bad for you- without guilt. Then...... have a good night sleep and start all over in the morning.
Im sorry I couldnt be more helpful.
Good luck.
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lasidus1
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:53 am |
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and don't cry, things happen. at least it's not surgery and it's yummy cake
don't feel crushed by it. worst case, you have lots of cake scraps to make cake balls out of to eat away tears, and still have your fondant figures to put on a beautiful new cake  |
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RoccosMom
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:52 am |
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chilz822
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:49 am |
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I cried with my first TT cake also. I wasn't happy with my carving and I was also trying Satin Ice for the first time. Disaster!
I used 3-3 tiered sections (10, 8, 6). You can see it in my pics. Make sure you've got your supports in good (I used bubble tea straws) and make sure each tier is on a cardboard round prior to 'dropping' it into your carved 'hole'.
I had soooo many issues with tearing that I scrapped the Satin Ice and made 2 emergency batches of MMF and then I was able to get through it.
There's a video on youtube that one of our CC members did. I wish I had it before I attempted the cake, it helped quite a bit.
Here's the link!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHY_F53ClJ8
Don't cry!  |
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arsing1
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:06 am |
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| Quote: | | I was also trying Satin Ice for the first time |
Me too. This was my first time with Satin Ice. It tore all over the place and was dry. I tried adding shortening to wake it up but it didn't help.
My cake sizes were the same as yours.
I ended up just taking the top two, slanted layers and stuck with a plain, flat round cake. I may have to bake one more layer for each because they look too short now.
I still hate it.
I'm scratching topsy's from my list until I can have somebody show me how to do it. Maybe I can find a class for it.
Thanks for all of your comments! |
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KoryAK
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:44 am |
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For a 7" cake at the base I carve an 8" hole into the next cake down. You may need more depending on the angle of your sides. Make sure all cakes are well chilled before attempting to stack and of course the correct amount of support. If they are cold you can maneuver them around a bit to make them fit or remove the tier, cut the hole out a little larger, and try again.
For what you can do in this moment... chill the cakes and cut the holes larger. Try to resmooth the fondant and then alter the design a lit if need be to cover any bad parts. |
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sadsmile
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:10 am |
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Oh no!!! I am no help at all as I have never done one. I saw the tip about spackle stuff and that sounds sturdy. I love that you tube video that is how I plan on doing when my turn comes around. I also read cool things about MFF(not MMF and can't wait to try that recipe. If all else fails you could do a small stacked round and then grind all that cake up and make cake balls or cake pops.
{{{Arsing}}} Don't cry love! Just have some more champaign! And take pictures even if it's a disaster because some day you will be able to laugh about it and maybe even post in disaters. I am really hoping to see a pic of the disaster and then a gorgeous pic of how you rescued it all beautifully! I am sending possitive thoughts in your direction right now!!!  |
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SS385Monte
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:26 am |
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I feel your pain. My first topsy turvy cake toppled totally over! It was a DISASTER...haven't gotten up the nerve to try another one. Maybe someday soon. |
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sugarshack
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:38 pm |
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Topsys can be quite the buggers to master. My first few sagged to infinity and beyond.
1) cake must be super firm
2) u need at least 3 inch differenccne bewteen tiers, preferably 4 to have stable sides
3) make the hole a bit bigger than needed until you master them so u can be sure the cakes will fit together, and use a big border. The better you get, the smaller you can make your hole
4) make sure you have enough dowels and they are very level and not cut too low
i am sorry you are going thru this. i have been there and they brought me to tears too. But you WILL get it if you practice. |
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nannie
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Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:43 pm |
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And of course Ms SugarShack knows all this because she's making a new Topsey Turvey DVD ???? Maybe, please, pretty please
Or maybe that's just in my dreams  |
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