Joined: Oct 11, 2007
Posts: 66
Location: courtice, Ontario, canada
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:19 am
I am not slamming anyone (in case anyone is referring to me) I did say they had the right to voice their opinion...but I was brought up believing if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. even though they may have the right to voice their opinion, it was more of a matter of whether they should....that's why I suggested that the proper thing to do was to ask through a PM. now there is this runaway of heat and stress....I simply support the decision to keep the pic and her reasons for putting it up in the first place. we as a society are so caught up in what everyone else is doing that we lose sight of the fact that our very own REACTIONS maybe just as inappropriate given the situation. I did not mean to stir the hornets nest.
jjkarm Frequent Member
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
Posts: 200
Location: Utah
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:24 am
Sometimes life can be extremely hard, and each of us try to find a way to cope and endure our tragedies. If Taylor's picture helps you find some peace and comfort, then it absolutely needs to be there. When I first saw his picture my heart went out to you and your family. I myself, found his picture to be comforting. I realized that this was a child who was wanted, welcomed, cherished, loved, embraced and missed very much! There are many children born into this world who are not so fortunate. Even though Taylor is not able to live in your home at this time, his spirit will always be there.
"Someone you love is in heaven,
So heaven is in your home."
Petit-four Frequent Member
Joined: Feb 21, 2008
Posts: 456
Location: upstate NY
Birthday: Mar 20
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:35 am
I'd just like to share my deepest sympathies with the CC members who have mentioned personal losses: "love never dies."
And, I'd like to share this link, if it has not come up already:
I hope some of the people who were uncomfortable with the image of a dearly loved child might visit the site, and gain a sense of what others have gone through. I was quite angry when I skimmed over some of the posts in the "other thread" but then realized that the comments undoubtedly came from a lack of knowledge. Here's a little bit from the SHARE site, that helps explain:
"I’ve never experienced the loss of a baby. What am I supposed to do to make my friends feel better?
No matter what you say or do, there is nothing that will make your friends “feel better.” Fortunately there are some ideas that will help you be a part of their experience and will help them through their grief. If you don’t know what to say, don’t say anything. Sometimes just being with them or offering a hug is enough. It’s all right not to know what to say. Say, “I’m sorry this happened,” or “This is so awful, I don’t know what to say.” Respond to your friends’ grief just as if anyone other member of their family had died. Send flowers, sympathy cards, share special remembrances, and make a phone call, make or bring dinner. Even though this baby’s life was short, your friends lost their hopes and future too."
shivs Regular Member
Joined: Oct 05, 2006
Posts: 145
Location: Lubbock, Texas
Birthday: Oct 02
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:43 am
fondantgrl wrote:
Yeah ! let's see them handle what you have been through. Let's see if they are as brave and strong of a person as you.. Or maybe it's just the mouth that is big and not the strength to go thru all this.
It's like slapping you on face after all you have been through. Hopefully they will experience much harder times than you. Let's see how they would feel about it. Please keep that photo and ignore those retards.
Shame on you fondant girl
How freaking old are you? 12?? I cant believe I just read that.
floophs Regular Member
Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 169
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:51 am
Petit-four...that was beautifully written.
I wasn't going to write anything because sometimes I just feel words aren't enough. I had a miscarriage when I was only 10 weeks along. The day after I miscarried I was supposed to have my first appt. to hear the heartbeat. Obviously my appt wasn't of that but instead I brought in the miscarried baby in a small cup. My biggest regret in life...was not asking for it back. They had to look at it to make sure I passed it and I'm sure they either threw it in the garbage or down the disposal. Still...to this day when I think about it it brings tears to my eyes. I would have lovingly buried that baby in a special place.
Anyways, that was over 7 years ago and I still have my moments of deep sadness and loss. Moments of wondering if it was a boy or girl. However, I do have a personal relationship with Jesus and I do believe that He holds my baby. I believe with all my heart that I will some day hold my baby again.
Obviously I never felt my baby move inside of me and I never got to hold my baby in my arms...but a life is a life and when it's taken from you it's painful. I too am very sorry for your loss. BTW, your baby is beautiful. I love his cheeks!
mocakes Forum Addict
Joined: Jul 06, 2006
Posts: 509
Location: St. Louis, MO
Birthday: May 19
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:55 am
natascharenee wrote:
I just wanted to say that I'm sorry for yor loss. The picture of your son is very beautiful and peacefull. There is nothing wrong with taking pictures like these. www.nowilaymedowntosleep.org
Thank you for posting that, natascharenee. I just spent the last 30 minutes reading every last story and looking at those precious pictures.
It was there that I saw little Baby Olivia and read the story, then was so touched to see her mom add her to the avatar.
Every baby is a priceless gift from God...no matter how small or how many weeks along...each one is a wonderful miracle.
As a mother, this thread touched me deeply and I hope you (and Baby Olivia's mommy) know that I want to join you in celebrating their life!
Mo
terrig007 Frequent Member
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Posts: 340
Location: VA
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:12 am
mocakes wrote:
natascharenee wrote:
I just wanted to say that I'm sorry for yor loss. The picture of your son is very beautiful and peacefull. There is nothing wrong with taking pictures like these. www.nowilaymedowntosleep.org
Thank you for posting that, natascharenee. I just spent the last 30 minutes reading every last story and looking at those precious pictures.
It was there that I saw little Baby Olivia and read the story, then was so touched to see her mom add her to the avatar.
Every baby is a priceless gift from God...no matter how small or how many weeks along...each one is a wonderful miracle.
As a mother, this thread touched me deeply and I hope you (and Baby Olivia's mommy) know that I want to join you in celebrating their life!
Mo
Amen to that Mo! I wish more people felt that way.
terri
cmyoung5 Regular Member
Joined: Dec 13, 2006
Posts: 199
Location: Michigan
Birthday: Oct 05
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:18 am
shivs wrote:
fondantgrl wrote:
Yeah ! let's see them handle what you have been through. Let's see if they are as brave and strong of a person as you.. Or maybe it's just the mouth that is big and not the strength to go thru all this.
It's like slapping you on face after all you have been through. Hopefully they will experience much harder times than you. Let's see how they would feel about it. Please keep that photo and ignore those retards.
Shame on you fondant girl
How freaking old are you? 12?? I cant believe I just read that.
Thank you for pointing out how out of line fondant girl was for posting this. In spite of what anyone in the original thread said, you should never hope that anyone will experience this kind of pain. In addition, I find it extremely offensive to call people "retards." My daughter has cerebral palsy and is mentally retarded. This word shouldn't be used as an insult. Mental retardation is a medical condition and a developmental disability. It is not a disease, but a wide range of conditions with many causes. You wouldn't have said "ignore those diabetics" or "ignore those asthmatics." Next time, think before you speak, or in this case type.
twooten,
I am so sorry for your loss. Your baby is beautiful and a gift from God, no matter how little the time you had together was. I had friends whose daughter was stillborn several years ago. Her dad wanted to get her a huge marker for her grave and there were so many people who never understood why. He told me that he'd never be able to buy her toys, or even a wedding dress, but this was one thing he could buy her and he wanted it to be special. You and your family are in my prayers.
Chrisy
Jasmine33 Frequent Member
Joined: Jul 23, 2008
Posts: 249
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:19 am
twooten173
I just read the first post so far. I just wanted to come and give you a big hug. We lost our son at 4 1/2 months. I know how heart breaking it can be. Keep the picture up.
FB_Cake_Diva Newbie
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
Posts: 6
Location: Fernandina Beach, Florida
Birthday: Feb 20
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:46 am
As a mother of two small children, my heart aches for you. Not only for your loss, but for the pain you've felt over the original posting. Taylor will always live on in your heart and in God's kingdom, and we are blessed that you chose to share your beautiful baby with your CC family.
As with most families though, there will always be misunderstandings and hurt feelings, but at the end of the day the simple truth is, we're all still family. As you can see from all the postings, you have alot of support and love from your fellow CC'ers and I hope you will continue to be a member of our family.
Robin
cocobean Frequent Member
Joined: Sep 27, 2007
Posts: 472
Location: South Jordan, Utah
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:02 am
I've only read a few of the posts about this but here are my 2 cents.
Who has ever had to be forgiven?
Who has ever had to forgive?
*Fight the negetive thoughts!
*Is your pride more important than your peace?
*Begin with, withholding judgement!
Recommended books:
*Getting Over Getting Mad
*Difficult Conversations
*Life Would Be Easy If It Weren't For Other People
*Thought for the day:
-Forgiviness is loves toughest work!
-You don't always forget but you look at it in an alternative way!
The End
Kim_in_CajunCountry Frequent Member
Joined: Apr 19, 2008
Posts: 385
Location: South Louisiana, smack dab in the middle of Cajun Country
Birthday: Sep 08
Coincidentally, I saw your avatar for the first time a few weeks ago, on the evening after a coworker gave birth to her stillborn baby girl when she was 8 months pregnant, having had a normal, uneventful pregnancy. She hadn't noticed any movement over the weekend and went to the doctor on Monday and was given the heartbreaking news. She delivered her angel on Monday afternoon and a local non-profit organization provided her with a handmade gown. Then, members of nowilaymedowntosleep.org, a wonderful organization, came in to take pictures of the baby and her family. These people are angels in their own right.
I think my friend's father said it best, when he said at the hospital, "Heaven must have had a shortage of angels today."
There are no words to express what I feel for you and anyone who has endured such a loss. I am in tears as I write this (and I'm at work; CC addict).
God bless.
mkolmar Forum SuperStar!
Joined: May 19, 2006
Posts: 4716
Location: at the computer
Birthday: Jun 02
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:12 am
I never read the orig. thread and to be honest I try to avoid threads like that.
I knew the picture was of your beautiful child in heaven, but it never bothered me. I think it's wonderful that you are celebrating his life. He was a beautiful child.
Many times I wanted to PM you saying that I was sorry for your loss, but I just couldn't find the right words. What words could I ever form to say that I was so proud of a mother who would celebrate their children's live who are here and those who are not.
feliciangel Regular Member
Joined: Dec 27, 2007
Posts: 122
Location: LA,CA
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:56 am
I too feel the need to apologize, I requested the information on how to block your image. I never posted anything because I could never live with the fact that I wasn't allowing you to grieve in the way you needed to. I just didn't know how to deal with the emotions that came with seeing such a harsh reality.
One that almost became my reality, same circumstances with my oldest daughter, I almost lost her. I understood very well how much people can be "disturbed"(for lack of a better word). Your picture "disturbed" me so much it brought me to tears, not because it was inappropriate or distasteful but because I didn't know how to handle my emotions and the pain I felt for you and your loss.
As I read your post I truly admire your strength and courage. I understand now that your not grieving your loss but celebrating your beautiful baby. I truly am sorry for everything that has happened to you. I also am sorry that I couldn't see beyond my own emotions.
Nicole
margaretb Frequent Member
Joined: Jul 04, 2008
Posts: 228
Posted:
Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:07 am
re fondantgirl's comment -- people, I don't think she was ACTUALLY wishing that other people lose babies -- she was probably just so upset and outraged at the hurtful/insensitive comments that she posted as she did. Has no one else ever said something under strong emotions that they might not have actually meant?
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