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Posted:
Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:27 pm
lovinkakes wrote:
Yup: child in seat behind me on the plane was kicking my chair for at least 15-20 min. I finally turned around looked the precious little darling in the eye, a beautiful-looking little girl by the way, and firmly and politely asked her to stop. She may have kicked my chair one more time later by accident, but she did stop and I had a peaceful flight. Honestly, I didn't even look for a parent since after so long I could safely assume there was no responsible adult nearby (granted they were probably sitting next to her). I felt some people were probably angry at me for talking directly to the child, but I had the rest of my 3 1/2 hour flight in peace.
Not to Hijack, but as a side-bar. I really did try to keep my 1 1/2 yr old from touching the dude on the plane in front of us (MAYBE 5 times in a 5 hour flight). He had an empty seat BESIDE him. I walked my kid up and down the isles I don't even know how many times, and she NEVER cried. He put is seat down all the way for over an hour until the stewardess had to ask him to put it up! At the end of the flight (still in the seat in front of me, not in the empty one beside him), he looks me dead in the eye and says "Next time get that kid her own d**n seat." Yup. I hate people!
feliciangel Junior Member
Joined: Dec 27, 2007
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Posted:
Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:57 pm
mommyle wrote:
lovinkakes wrote:
Yup: child in seat behind me on the plane was kicking my chair for at least 15-20 min. I finally turned around looked the precious little darling in the eye, a beautiful-looking little girl by the way, and firmly and politely asked her to stop. She may have kicked my chair one more time later by accident, but she did stop and I had a peaceful flight. Honestly, I didn't even look for a parent since after so long I could safely assume there was no responsible adult nearby (granted they were probably sitting next to her). I felt some people were probably angry at me for talking directly to the child, but I had the rest of my 3 1/2 hour flight in peace.
Not to Hijack, but as a side-bar. I really did try to keep my 1 1/2 yr old from touching the dude on the plane in front of us (MAYBE 5 times in a 5 hour flight). He had an empty seat BESIDE him. I walked my kid up and down the isles I don't even know how many times, and she NEVER cried. He put is seat down all the way for over an hour until the stewardess had to ask him to put it up! At the end of the flight (still in the seat in front of me, not in the empty one beside him), he looks me dead in the eye and says "Next time get that kid her own d**n seat." Yup. I hate people!
you should have told him next time scoot your dumb @ss over, see for every rotten kid out there, you have a equally rotten adult.
It's not like you weren't trying to keep her busy. Some people have to understand that kids are exactly that, kids. They are gonna touch and be curious and its our jobs as parents to give boundaries.
I totally agree with telling the child something when parents aren't doing the job as specified PARENTING
feliciangel Junior Member
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Posted:
Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:21 pm
jkeeler wrote:
First, Happy Birthday!
Boy, what a read this thread was! I remember reading an article printed in our newspaper out here about a woman who complained about someone reprimanding her children--I think they were asked to leave a restaurant because the child, or children were out of control...anyway, long story short, she thought she would get a lot of sympathy from the public but the overwhelming response to the article was not in favor of the mother---a lot of people out there (me included) have suffered the misbehavior of little darlings (the fault of the parents).
So...it will be interesting to see if her complaint actually ends up in the news...I think she's in for a rude awakening. Oh yeah, I also believe if this happens, as has been stated in this thread, it will be a boon for your business. You owe no apology to this lady...my sympathy are for her little misguided and...ahem...unsupervised children.
I've got two of my own, grown now, so I know its possible to control behaviors...mine weren't perfect, but they would have got about one pound on a window before getting a little attitude adjustment from me...
Let us know if it ends up in the news and we'll all respond on your behalf!!!!
sorry a lil off topic
Don't know if it's the same article or not but I remember reading one about a boy and his family that were kicked out of a Denny's because he was having a meltdown, he had autism. Being that I could totally relate to this lady's situation (my 7 year old is autistic) and does have these quite often in certain situation, and at times they are unavoidable. Sometimes the parents are not at fault, and while it seem our kids are misbehaving or having a tantrum they are literally having a sensory meltdown. I have gotten that "lady control your kid" look many times and given the "what the Hell are you looking at" glare often. It's frustrating at times
Sorry if I sound like I'm ranting, it's not my intention...l appologize if thats how i sound...just trying to spread a little awareness
Cakenator Junior Member
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Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:57 am
these kids were definatly not autistic.
darandon Forum Fanatic
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Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:03 am
That reminds me of a sign I saw in a little gift store while I was on vacation recently - - "Unattended children will be given sugar and a puppy and then sent home."
She is probably one of those parents that also let their children use the railling in fast food restaunts and such as gymnastic equipment and then get upset when they fall off.
Don't pay her any attention.
yummymummy Frequent Member
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Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:26 am
I have 5 children and would never let them behave like that! I can't stand people who think their children never do anything wrong. I bet if her kids were banging on her window at her own home for even 10 min she would say something to them....what makes her think that no one else has the right to teach her children right from wrong? She's obviously not, so someone has to.
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Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:00 am
darandon wrote:
That reminds me of a sign I saw in a little gift store while I was on vacation recently - - "Unattended children will be given sugar and a puppy and then sent home."
She is probably one of those parents that also let their children use the railling in fast food restaunts and such as gymnastic equipment and then get upset when they fall off.
Don't pay her any attention.
sounds like the one at my library- unattended children will be given a puppy and a cup of espresso.
canoewoman Regular Member
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Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:29 am
I don't agree at all with slamming/name calling the kids as some of the posts have done. They are being taught/molded by the parent so I think all the slamming should be going towards the mother for letting her kids go wild and not doing anything about it. I do agree, however, with letting her go to the news and I would encourage her to do so. Free advertising is free advertising no matter how it comes about. The news people would likely look at ther like she was CRAZY!!! Worth a shot though. She is just trying to get something for free. I would adress her issue and reply that there will be NO FREE CAKE coming her way and explain how her kids were behaving as I am sure by the sounds of it she saw nothing wrong with what they were doing. Maybe direct her to a Parenting 101 class nearest her!!!
This is one of my biggest pet peeves, and its not the childrens fault!
Children only know what they are taught, and they are apparently being taught to do what ever they please regardless of other people.
I have 3 kids myself (5,3,2) and yes kids can act up at times, but you know what, its my responsibility to supervise, raise and at reprimand them. I am the parent after all. And if a stranger in public ever had to get onto my kids for their behavior I would be so embarrassed and I would apologize to them, not the other way around.
This lady is nuts, she is one of the parents that when her kids do something wrong it will always be the other persons fault, not her children’s.
Meaning these kids are going to grow up and never take responsibility for their own actions.
Had my kids been banging on the window I would have marched them up and made them say sorry and then took them home, no cake for them, that’s a reward for misbehaving, who rewards that?
I had to tell some boys the other day at the pet store not to pick up the guinea pigs, as they stood right next to the sign that said, ”do no pick up the guinea pigs” and they were 10-12 so they could read the sign, they just choose to ignore it.
Sorry so long, it just really annoys me that I bust my rear to teach my children manners, morals and respect and yet they are surrounded by others who make no attempt at this.
It just makes it that much harder when they see kids their age who don’t have to wait in line, who get candy when they throw a fit at the grocery store, who say “no” to their parents, and who can bang on the glass but they can’t.
Hawkette Junior Member
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Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:06 am
Why wait for the news to show up. Did you say she called? Does your phone have caller ID? Contact the news yourself and give them her number for her side of the story. (Honestly, the gall of some people. She deserves a little of her own medicine.)
Really, I doubt they would be at all interested in the story if it came from her. (And I have a journalism degree.) But if you presented it as Momzilla harassing your business, it sounds a little more interesting. If they are hurting for news, they just might bite. And yeah, a GREAT way for free advertising.
There was a brand-new restaurant around here (granted we don't get much real news around here) that posted a sign something to the effect of "Well-behaved children welcome." The news ran a small story, and wouldn't you know it -- lots of free advertising. Most of the online responses were in favor, but there were a few folks who got outraged. Sheesh -- you would think they would have posted a sign that kids would be caged or something. How much do you want to bet they were THOSE parents -- the reason for the sign in the first place?
I owned a retail pool supply store, and we had a small demo in-ground pool in the showroom. We regularly had issues with misbehaving children who would try to remove the safety fence, throw things into pool, etc.--even with signs posted to warn parents. It became our standard policy to ask the parents of the misbehaving child "do you wish to address the situation or shall I?" Said with a smile of course.
My reply to this lady would be "oh please do go to the TV- I need the free advertisement."
The woman is a blow hard. How assinine to sit by and let them bang on your window and then 2 weeks later complain to you like that about your hurting their feelings. Geez. It's equally assinine to think she'd actually go to the media about it. You have nothing to worry about. I'd hang up on anyone calling with such nonsense.
This is how it goes at my house. If children come over and start doing something they shouldn't I give the parent first chance at doing something about it. If they don't I DO. I also have a pool. I'll say something first thing if a kid does something they shouldn't around my pool. Actually, if we aren't going to be swimming I just shut the gate that leads to the pool, so the temptations are removed. I take NO chances.
I raised three children. They were taught manners and respect. The rules of behavior were the same at our house or someone else's. My 2 granddaughters are being raised the same. A few years ago my dd started doing play days with an old high school friend and her kids. First they came to my dd's house. It was a nightmare what the mother was willing to sit by and let her kids do. My dd didn't allow it and it made for a not so fun play day. The first time dd and the girls went to the friend's house she was told right away "okay, the first rule here is "THERE ARE NO RULES". My dd was astounded by this announcement. She had to inform her good friend that her girls would be expected to observe the same rules as they did at home, no standing or jumping on furniture or tables, etc etc, all of which this gals kids did. The friend was not raised to be wild, and yet she has two children you can barely stand to be around because of their behavior. It's just amazing. What are some parents thinking when they neglect to teach their kids how to behave well, at home and in public!! Do they even consider what kind of adults they are teaching them to be? Or that they may not even LIKE their kids when they're adults?
I thank God I was raised with loving discipline. I am thoughtful and respectful of others, I love people and you can take me anywhere! Really, just try me! I can say the same of my kids and grandkids. The worst thing we've ever done was get hysterical giggles in public a couple time and once in church, but that wasn't our fault.
I don't care if this sounds like I'm tooting my own horn. I'm happy to be
a well adjusted nice person.
And someone mentioned something about people being mad about you talking directly to a child. I smile, wave and talk to children all the time. There are always parents/adults around them when I do. I always pay attention to people who talk to my granddaughters. Kids need to be treated like people too, otherwise how do they learn to interact with others. Some don't stand a chance with their parents.
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Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:15 am
I would tell her:
"It unfortunate you feel this way. However, your children were misbehaving and since you did not address the issue, I handled the situation so I could continue my business.
If you wish to contact the media, please tell them to reach me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. This is the most convenient number to reach me and I know that as responsible journalists they will want to speak with me as well."
feliciangel Junior Member
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Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:45 am
Cakenator wrote:
these kids were definatly not autistic.
sorry, I'm sure they weren't.
I was referring to the lady at Denny's, I totally agree with fact that this lady should have been watching her kids.
Knowing my son he would have tried to bang on the window
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I bet if her kids were banging on her window at her own home for even 10 min she would say something to them....what makes her think that no one else has the right to teach her children right from wrong? She's obviously not, so someone has to.
Most of the online responses were in favor, but there were a few folks who got outraged. Sheesh -- you would think they would have posted a sign that kids would be caged or something. How much do you want to bet they were THOSE parents -- the reason for the sign in the first place?
but I never would have allowed it
