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sweetbaker
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Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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Location: Montgomery County, Maryland
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:40 am |
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mittmitt
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Joined: Jun 10, 2006
Posts: 127
Location: indiana
Birthday: Aug 08
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:43 am |
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That's a beautiful cake, I like the swags on the side, and the use of color blends well with the figurenes. |
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tobycat
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Joined: Oct 12, 2005
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Location: Eagle, Idaho
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:49 am |
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Okay, Ellen, you have made me rethink the "plastic thingies and doohickies" on a character cake. That's really nicely done and tasteful. I was thinking of those 1/4 sheets at the store where they just plop down any old plastic toy (usually lying on its side and smooshed by globs of poorly piped and placed icing) and than made even more pathetic by the addition of a little confetti and "streamers."
Yours, however, is beautiful. 
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Elfie
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Joined: May 24, 2006
Posts: 267
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:05 am |
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I'm wondering if the client already had purchased the character pan and gave it to you to bake and decorate. With those 40% coupons they aren't too expensive. ( I just learned you can use the Joannes coupons at Michaels!) Write on the receipt specifically-prepared and decorated only-pan provided by client. Would this work? Maybe you could pick-up the pan and sell it to them with the cake. That way you could get a mark-up on the pan if you choose. |
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SweetThistleCakes
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Joined: May 13, 2006
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Location: in the kitchen
Birthday: Nov 15
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:11 am |
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| Elfie wrote: | | I'm wondering if the client already had purchased the character pan and gave it to you to bake and decorate. With those 40% coupons they aren't too expensive. ( I just learned you can use the Joannes coupons at Michaels!) Write on the receipt specifically-prepared and decorated only-pan provided by client. Would this work? Maybe you could pick-up the pan and sell it to them with the cake. That way you could get a mark-up on the pan if you choose. |
There is a whole thing in the copyright link about that too; no it makes it illegal in someway. |
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tobycat
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Location: Eagle, Idaho
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Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:17 pm |
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From what I read here, it sounds like you cannot sell anything from the character pan to an image unless the company has had its claws into it.
I've been thinking about this, and I'm I the only one whose a little, well, steamed about this issue?
1. Doesn't Disney make enough money already?
2. It's not like someone's going to sue Disney if a character cake made by a home-business is somehow "bad."
I can understand why they wouldn't want a big bakery that sells hundreds of cakes a day not selling the images without a license, but why on earth would they worry about the home business? I guess what I'm thinking is that it would be really nice if Disney (etc.) would give the little guy a break and release the image on a limited basis. In the end, we'd just be great advertising for them, and they'd get even more customers to walk through those magical gates for $100 per day.
Just venting a little....not necessarily being logical... sorry.
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mittmitt
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Joined: Jun 10, 2006
Posts: 127
Location: indiana
Birthday: Aug 08
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Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:41 pm |
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No, your not the only one mad about this. I guess I could do what Wilton said and contact those places and get permission from them. Actually I think I will contact them and see what they say and I'll post it here. |
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imartsy
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Joined: May 26, 2006
Posts: 2339
Location: Louisville, KY
Birthday: Sep 14
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Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:59 pm |
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I know I'd love to hear what they say - do they charge some exhorbitant amount, or do they base it on how much you sell, or do they base it per image used?
I do understand that it is someone's individual artwork that we are semi-stealing when we put an image on a cake that we got from the Internet or something - but if I buy a coloring book and copy & image and put it on a cake - well, I did pay for the coloring book, right?? Same thing should go for the pans - I did pay for the pan, so I paid to use the image.....
I also agree that we are advertising for them somewhat. Yes, we're using your image - but my gosh - it's cake! It's not like we're selling thousands of T-shirts or mugs or other crap w/ your logo or image on it - we're selling a cake that is consumable - no one is keeping the image forever that is on the cake..... it's just sad.
It was funny when I was in Taiwan for a week to visit my uncle b/c they don't really have copyright laws there - so I saw kids wearing T-shirts that looked like Elmo, but Elmo was blue! And the words looked like the "Sesame Street" font, but said something different..... too bad we can't get away w/ changing hair color or dress color or something so we can still sort of sell the cake w/ images...
wow that turned out longer than I thought it would be - just makes me a little mad..... it's really taking the joy away from the kids who love these brands but don't want some stupid figure on their cake.... which is bad customer policy in my opinion  These are your future customers! |
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Rambo
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Location: Tri-Cities, Washington
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Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:19 pm |
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Okay I'm really new to all of this but you all got me wondering about the Wilton pans that Wilton designed. The baby buggy and butterfly and teddy bears, etc. Aren't all of those liscenced too? Or does all of this only apply to Disney and such?
Just got my curiosity up. |
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tobycat
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Location: Eagle, Idaho
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Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:33 pm |
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| Rambo wrote: | Okay I'm really new to all of this but you all got me wondering about the Wilton pans that Wilton designed. The baby buggy and butterfly and teddy bears, etc. Aren't all of those liscenced too? Or does all of this only apply to Disney and such?
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Funny, Rambo, but I was just thinking the same thing! I'm also really curious to see what the response will be when they are asked for permission to use their image. I hope (against hope really) that they will release the image rights.
I've also been thinking about their little plastic (mostly yuck and super cheap looking) toys that are on cakes. It's possible that someone could choke on one of them!
Well, we'll just have to wait and see what the response will be.
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