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CarolAnn
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:19 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

"giving walmarts phone number to those who don't want to pay."

What??? Let them look it up themselves!!!!!

I can't believe, well actually/sadly I can, how people can be so stupid as to have someone else call with the exact same request to see if the price has changed. I would definitely raise the price if that happened.

I'll be using the "what's in it for me" line if I get the discount question.

And why is it I always have the best comebacks after the conversation has ended!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:23 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

The audacity of people....We decided we would stop being nice to our colleagues...We own our own busness which we currently run part-time while working our full-time jobs (the ones that keep the bills paid at the moment)...A co-worker asked me to do a quote for her daughter's 2nd wedding....She wanted a 6" topper and cupcakes....So we worked up the quote and because we like her we gave her a 20% friends and family discount...She looked at the quote and said, "I thought you would have been cheaper than Cost*Co." So I told her that they don't make their orders fresh to order with all-butter buttercream with attention to details...I was burning at that point so I said, "If you don't like custom prices, go to Cost*Co"....She did...We haven't gotten many orders from my staff but I do not care...Evenutally, we will have our own store and I won't have to worry about them.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:32 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I work at a grocery store chain bakery, and I have to tell you I am absolutely disgusted by what they do.

The cakes come in boxes, FROZEN. The icings in buckets or a cardboard "milk box" that you have to whip up. All the cakes look the same. There is no room at all for creativity.

Not to mention the breads come in frozen as well. I mean, how can we call it a bakery when everything comes in frozen?!

I'm telling you guys, I would LOVE to open my own bakery here. There are none in my area. I would make a killing!!!

Anyone wanna help me write up my business plan? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:40 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

you guys realize what MOST people are gonna say when you say "What's in it for me if I give you a discount?" Don't you??


They will say " IT'LL BE GOOD ADVERTISING FOR YOUR BUSINESS!!!!!"

LOLOLOLOLOLOL OH come on, you know they will!! Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:43 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

KKC, the nerve of that person! Way to go on your response, I think it was well deserved. Smile

I think it is so hilarious that she asked for a cake to serve 1. lmao!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:48 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

KHalstead wrote:
you guys realize what MOST people are gonna say when you say "What's in it for me if I give you a discount?" Don't you??


They will say " IT'LL BE GOOD ADVERTISING FOR YOUR BUSINESS!!!!!"

LOLOLOLOLOLOL OH come on, you know they will!! Cool


I thought of that one too! Laughing

"My cake will be advertised .... meaning all of your guests will see it / eat it .... whether it's paid for or discounted. What I'll get is a bunch of advertising that says "debi does cheap cakes" and everyone will come here expecting to get a discount, so I can advertise my cake at THEIR party, so all of THEIR guests will come here expecting to get a discount. I can't afford that kind of advertising."
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:53 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

you can go ahead and make the cake to serve 1, just call it super sized and the price is still the $300. Did she want a single cuppie and think you wold give it to her for a quarter?

Just because I know you through my neighbors aunt's cousin's best friend's daughter's sister's coworker that you met at the grocery store 5 years ago doesn't mean you get a discount. I can give you that discount. The cake will have the expired eggs, margerine, and other questionable ingredients, but I am sure you will be fine with getting an inferior product at a discount and not the quality cakes I am know for. So, I will keep the date for you when I get the $300 for that cake because I will not self myself cheap nor use cheap ingredients. Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:57 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

OH debi, I knew you could back up the "free advertising" with a good answer!!! This is why I like to talk to people through emails, I can log onto CC and see

"What would Debi say?" and then copy and paste YOUR answer to MY email. lol

You know, I used to work as a dispatcher at the police dept. and they had a book, a manual of sorts...it had tabs on the side (was a 3 ring binder) and had all kinds of situations outlined on the tab (ie: choking, drowning, not breathing, no heartbeat, etc.) and you could flip to that section and it outlined entire questions and answers like FAQ's and things you should/could say to calm the person down, etc.

I really think that indydebi should write one of these books about cake dec./ catering/ general dealing with the public. You could have tabs for

-wants discount
-wants donation
-wants champagne on beer budget
-wants 1 tiered cake and sheetcakes in back

I mean, I would buy it!!!!! lol


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:58 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

KHalstead wrote:
you guys realize what MOST people are gonna say when you say "What's in it for me if I give you a discount?" Don't you??


They will say " IT'LL BE GOOD ADVERTISING FOR YOUR BUSINESS!!!!!"

LOLOLOLOLOLOL OH come on, you know they will!! Cool


Thats the same thing my husband said, and I told him that they could also tell people that I'll cut down my prices if you ask. That type of business I don't need! Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:58 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah, I forgot to ask - HOW do you make a batman cake for 1? I would love to hear the answer.
My family asks me for a cake for 5 (all of them want their own cake, but the cakes were this month every 3-4 days, so I can somewhat understand it). Ignoring the practical aspect - baking one mini-cake or cupcake in big oven, how the he.. you decorate it?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:06 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Anyone ever just say, tactfully, what it takes for us? I mean, when I explain to people in general, or those who are visiting me while I have a cake going actually see what we do, they begin to develop an understanding. Its like they just assumed we dump a box of mix in a pan and 30 minutes later . . . POOF! A 3 tier wedding or gumpaste birthday masterpiece. When I explain the countless hours, and very late nights (or wee hour mornings) we spend, and extended family babysitting support, and cost of fondant, etc., I actually hear the BING Shocked of the "I get it now bell" go off in their heads.

Can I do that with customers? Mmmmmm. . . maybe not. But one day. . . Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:10 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

majka_ze wrote:
Yeah, I forgot to ask - HOW do you make a batman cake for 1? I would love to hear the answer.


I have no clue! My husbands co-worker told him to tell me "don't worry about it". I told him to tell his co-worker, "I'm not worrying about it, I'm not stressing over it...they are the ones that need a cake to feed 100 people, not me! So why would I worry about it!" Cool My husband looked at me and said, "Where is this attitude coming from all of a sudden?" Hmmp...if only he knew Laughing Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil The dummy (my husband) even had the nerve to say I should take $25.00 off the cake and he'll just give me the extra $25.00 Confused What an idiot...doesn't he know that his money is my money so in the end we would still be losing out $25.00. I love him but sometimes I could just hurt him Lips are Sealed
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:25 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

That's exactly what I'm worried about....people asking for discounts all the time. I get so mad right off the bat that I need some "cool" answers. I love your response (and Debi's rebuttal).

to add: a co-worker asked me to do a dress shirt cake for her father's birthday. It's about the size of a 1/4 sheet. She called the grocery store and found out they charge $25 for a 1/4 sheet decorated with roses. She called me and said since they charge $25, she's willing to pay me $30 since I'll do "custom" work. I mean $5.00 extra???!!! Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:54 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I have this price debate all the time. And I 'm cheap.

I wish these cake shows on tv would say how much these cakes cost. To give the public and idea what it costs.
then maybe they would quit expecting a walmart cake price. The public has not got a clue. its not only the cake ingr. price but the power,water,time also.
They expect you to work 24/7 and not have a family or life.
and they want to give you $20.00 for it. like crap!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:34 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

peg818 wrote:
i love the come back line.

I had a lady keep calling me for a cake, she called once i quoted $500 she called again quoted her $500, she called a third time and i told her you call again and the price will be $600, she paid the $500 and loved the cake.

Personally i would rather sit in my nice clean kitchen and think about cakes, then clean up my messed up kitchen for no money. Then again this is a side thing for me, so i do have the luxury of giving walmarts phone number to those who don't want to pay.


I love this! It just became my new signature line.
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