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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:26 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Ditto what everyone else is saying, you should also document what you have and have not done (i.e. the posts here) she is accusing you of blocking her emails, what's next? She is not to be trusted. But you already know that since you cancelled your last cake order. Cancel your relationship with her too. Just my thoughts.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:28 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Definately don't go there, she will use this against you everytime she wants you to do something. She sounds unstable and will probably take all her stress out on you. You having no control over your own business and having to turn people away because of this sick women will not help make a good name for yourself. You do amazing work so keep on looking and you will figure something out. Good luck Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:13 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

Oh no no no no no no. You must stay as far away from her as you can-she is unstable. That whole playing games thing she said-she is beyond scary. Do not even speak to her again.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:34 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I must really have a unique mindset. I think that in the culinary industry, there is a lot of abuse that goes on in the kitchen (have you ever watched "Hell's Kitchen"?) I think this is an opportunity for you - an opportunity you might not find elsewhere, and you would be a fool to dismiss it so quickly. Sure, you might hate going to work everyday - but so do many other people. Sure, you might have to put up with a mean person - what's new?

I REALLY think you need to look at the big picture. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you can work out an arrangement that is suitable, I think you'd be better off staying and working on building your own business.

Just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:15 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

This lady is accusing her of tampering with email!

Red flag of what's to come...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:29 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

WykdGud wrote:
I must really have a unique mindset. I think that in the culinary industry, there is a lot of abuse that goes on in the kitchen (have you ever watched "Hell's Kitchen"?) I think this is an opportunity for you - an opportunity you might not find elsewhere, and you would be a fool to dismiss it so quickly. Sure, you might hate going to work everyday - but so do many other people. Sure, you might have to put up with a mean person - what's new?

I REALLY think you need to look at the big picture. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you can work out an arrangement that is suitable, I think you'd be better off staying and working on building your own business.

Just my opinion.



This is not her first incident, there are lots more.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:48 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Uniqueask wrote:
WykdGud wrote:
I must really have a unique mindset. I think that in the culinary industry, there is a lot of abuse that goes on in the kitchen (have you ever watched "Hell's Kitchen"?) I think this is an opportunity for you - an opportunity you might not find elsewhere, and you would be a fool to dismiss it so quickly. Sure, you might hate going to work everyday - but so do many other people. Sure, you might have to put up with a mean person - what's new?

I REALLY think you need to look at the big picture. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you can work out an arrangement that is suitable, I think you'd be better off staying and working on building your own business.

Just my opinion.





This is not her first incident, there are lots more.


Yes, this lady is nuts and this is not the first time she's pulled a Gary Busey.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:49 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I know, she is nuts...the thing is, she wasn't like this in the beginning. Wish we had kept out original plan of me baking some stuff for her each week, she sold it, I did my own thing.

Now I don't even remember how it evolved. I was taken aback by the email accusation, but not totally shocked. She is entering her password in wrong, I can guarantee it.

I aniticipate more of the same......*sigh* Part of me wants to meet with her to get some additional guerilla negotiating experience (something I am sadly lacking) and the other part just wants to burn the bridge. There is also a small part that would like to make nice-nice for the next 2 months so I can utilize my flyers - then find a new place. Otherwise I am out of commision for the holidays this year....but at what cost, you know?

If I could just work down there 2 days a week, make my own stuff at night or on the weekends and sell it, then at least my holidays won't be a complete and total bust. However, as everyone has pointed out, history will probably repeat itself, lol

Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:01 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

It seems that if she wants you to work there, you have at least a small amount of power. If you are unable, or unwilling to negotiate - then why not have an attorney draw something up? Hire a paralegal or law student to "represent" you in the negotations. Or maybe even just a friend or family who can be a bit firm. You might have more of a backbone with some emotional support, and she might be a little more fair so that she doesn't look like such a bitch in front of someone else.

I don't understand what all of this debate about it. The way I see it - you have two options:

1. Get it in writing with the most favorable terms possible and stick it out as long as you can while you build up your business.

2. Walk away and give up what may be your only option short of opening your own place.

Good luck whatever you decide.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:34 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

CakeMommyTX wrote:
Yes, this lady is nuts and this is not the first time she's pulled a Gary Busey.


LMAO Gary Busey!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:07 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Ugh, I so wish this problem was resolved for you. That lady is just insane. The smart thing for you to do would be to run, but I can totally see where you're coming from about wanting to stick it out until after the holidays.

You're just gonna have to figure out at what cost can you do your holiday stuff? Like, is this heiffer gonna be on you and calling you and accusing you every single day until January 1? Or is there any possible way you can appease her by strictly paying her rent in money and not baked goods or time on the clock? Can you work when she's not open, like, when she's not there? That would be the only way I would stick it out. If I could A. pay her rent in money, and B. work when she wasn't around.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:43 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

This lady sounds completely off her rocker! If she wants to hire you to bake stuff for her cafe, I don't see why you can't trade with baking time in the kitchen during non business hours. But if this nut-job has done this before, she's not going to change.

No sense in making yourself miserable by putting up with this. I'd say good riddance and look for another kitchen to rent.

Best of luck to you.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:51 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Hell's Kitchen is a TV-show, not real life. I have an old friend who works with the director on that show so we get the inside scoop.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:06 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Mensch wrote:
Hell's Kitchen is a TV-show, not real life. I have an old friend who works with the director on that show so we get the inside scoop.


lmao. Point taken........
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:12 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

WykdGud wrote:
I must really have a unique mindset. I think that in the culinary industry, there is a lot of abuse that goes on in the kitchen (have you ever watched "Hell's Kitchen"?) ........


Sorry, but you're not unique. Many people think that TV is real.
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