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melissagarron
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:56 pm |
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hey just wondering what i should charge for a cake like this one? i have never made a cake with this much flowers and it is going to be alot of work not sure how much is too much, i don't want to quote her then it be way more difficult and time consuming.... what do you think?? |
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Texas_Rose
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:59 pm |
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Can you make all of those flowers? If not, look at how much they'll cost to order. I can't see all the details on the cake but it looks like it's covered in intricate piping work too. |
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melissagarron
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:05 pm |
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never thought to order! that would be alot easier, and ya i can't see all the details either, but ya it looks like some design over the cake. how are the flowers to order?? do they ship well?? and i am in canada so i will have to check it out! thanks!!! i was thinking at least $4oo but i will have to look into ordering the flowers then i will have a better idea about cost! |
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__Jamie__
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:08 pm |
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$400 for what? How many servings? $400 including the flowers? |
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melissagarron
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:14 pm |
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ya including flowers that was before i thought of ordering them it would have to be more if i order them...... does 400 seem to low??? i have no idea what to charge as i have never made anything like this |
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__Jamie__
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:16 pm |
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Servings. How many servings is the cake going to be? That's how a base price is determined, and then modified by how complex the design is. |
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LaBellaFlor
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:17 pm |
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Does $400 seem low?!
((thud)) and hits the floor (thanks leah_s)
Yes.
That looks like lace on their too. |
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SJ169
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:21 pm |
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| Quote: | Does $400 seem low?!
((thud)) and hits the floor (thanks leah_s)
Yes.
That looks like lace on their too. |
yes 400 does seem low especially with all of those flowers! jesh those would take hours to do (at least for me!) |
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idgalpal
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:24 pm |
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[quote="SJ169"]| Quote: | Does $400 seem low?!
yes 400 does seem low especially with all of those flowers! jesh those would take hours to do (at least for me!) |
Hours? Only hours to make all those flowers? Yikes! It took me a week two make 2 dozen roses! |
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Iggy
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:31 pm |
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Minimum $1,000.00 with all those flowers and lace piping. It's 4 tiers and very intricate. You can google "wholesale gumpaste flowers" and it will give you a couple places to order from. Good Luck! |
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indydebi
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:34 pm |
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Ok, let's try to break this down, just to get you started.
Assume it's a small cake and you are making a 6/8/10/12" cake.
According to the wilton wedding chart, this serves 12/24/38/56 = 130.
Assume a $3/serving price x 130 = $390. That's for BC(My rate for BC is $3.50 x 130 = $455)
Fondant covered is at least $1 more per serving. Add another $130 + $390 = $520.
The price TOTALLY depends on how many servings you are planning to make and what size cakes you are planning to use. The size of the cakes in the pic is immaterial .... the size of the cakes you use is what you go by.
I guestimate about 20 "sets" of flowers on that cake, plus some filler. A quick ( and I mean QUICK) browsing of an online supplier costs, plus markup (you never do pass-thru pricing, meaning if it costs you $25, you charge MORE than $25!) and I would add AT LEAST $250 JUST for the flowers.
I dont' normally charge for design, but if that design work is as intricate as I think it is, I'd add an add'l fee for that. Hand cramp pain is not funny.
So waht are we up to .... $750 range?
And there is never such as thing as "too much". If you give a price thinking it's "too much", then you have no confidence in your own work. And if YOU aren't confident the value of your work, how do you expect to sell the value of your work to OTHER people? |
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Sweet_Guys
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:36 pm |
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You are probably looking at $400 + just for the cake.
How long would it take to make you flowers? Multiply the time to make times your hourly wage + cost of wires, gumpaste, wire tape, dusting powders. Add THAT to the price of your cake.
If you go the purchase route, add the cost of the flowers + shipping + the cost of the cake.
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Paul |
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FromScratch
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:00 pm |
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Complete ditto to Debi... $400 is WAY too low.
Your #1 priority is to find out how many servings they need. #2... If you are going to make all of those flowers by hand you would be charging MORE than if you were to buy them.
This would be a $1000+ cake coming from me. |
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indydebi
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:03 pm |
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| FromScratch wrote: | | #2... If you are going to make all of those flowers by hand you would be charging MORE than if you were to buy them. |
excellent point ... my numbers were based on buying the flowers. making them is DEFINITELY a higher cost! |
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saberger
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Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:26 pm |
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" (you never do pass-thru pricing, meaning if it costs you $25, you charge MORE than $25!)"
Just curious as to why? Is it for the time it takes to order it via internet or phone? Or is there another reason? I probably would have charged what I paid for the flowers. Glad I came across this thread.
(Sorry I don't mean to hijack it.) |
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